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How Ethanol Has Hurt The Environment
Political Realities ^ | 11/14/13 | LD Jackson

Posted on 11/14/2013 3:48:21 AM PST by LD Jackson

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1 posted on 11/14/2013 3:48:21 AM PST by LD Jackson
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2 posted on 11/14/2013 3:54:53 AM PST by digger48 (/)
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Yeah and Ethanol is hydroscopic...that is, it absorbs water....

so can't be transported in regular oil pipelines

so a whole fleet of tanker trucks and rail cars are needed.

The other problem is that it burns with an invisible flame and requires special fire extinguishing equipment....that most fire depts. don't have.

3 posted on 11/14/2013 3:56:33 AM PST by spokeshave (Obamacare is planned, just like the planned famine by the Russians to eliminate the Ukrainians.)
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There is no excuse for spending nearly a dollar to produce a dollars worth of inferior fuel from food.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 3:56:44 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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YES AND I CAN DRINK ALCOHOL BUT NOT MIXED IN GASOLINE!


5 posted on 11/14/2013 4:06:02 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: LD Jackson

It’s time to stop burning corn in engines and leave it for food. If I was King, tomorrow our energy policy would be to work towards electric cars fueled by small local Thorium based energy plants. Thousands of these neighborhood power plants would need to be built, cutting Mideast oil out of the loop. Each house would also be supplemented by solar and natural gas. But that’s just me.


6 posted on 11/14/2013 4:11:51 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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Sarc on/. What is the deal here? Some kind of deniers or something? Where’s your compassion for gaia? Think of all those folks who could have consumed that corn in one form or another. Wait, I’m off track here. Uh, how do we handle the effluent from the processing of ethanol? Maybe the epa needs to talk to the doe about their wasting H20 or somehow abusing it. Sarc off/.
It’s all NOT so confusing. Control is the bottom line. Period.


7 posted on 11/14/2013 4:12:07 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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I’m fortunate, there’s a station within a couple of miles of me that sells regular gasoline (Non ethanol) it’s 5¢ a gallon higher but would be much cheaper than ethanol, if ethanol weren’t subsidized.


8 posted on 11/14/2013 4:18:29 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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Doing some looking around to see if anybody still sells gasoline without ethanol and found this link. Just in case anyone is interested. Not sure how up to date the info is but worth a look.

http://pure-gas.org/


9 posted on 11/14/2013 4:19:27 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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I might be ok if there was a choice. If I could choose ethanol blend. I wouldn’t choose ethanol, but we now have an industry that deserves to live without subsidy. Some of the report is pure emotion, but the cat is out of the bag, and stuffing the cat back in is probably going nowhere.

Oh, and btw having a choice might just prove which industry is worth having or saving. Ethanol or pure gasoline.


10 posted on 11/14/2013 4:20:00 AM PST by wita
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To: ez

If I were king, the rule would be, drill where ever you want to, on land you own or lease.

I keep reading that shale oil will eventually make the U.S. a net exporter of oil. Not to worry, the liberals are working hard on messing it up some way.


11 posted on 11/14/2013 4:21:35 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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A point I’ve made before is that, to observant muslims, buying, possessing and transporting alcohol is forbidden or haram. A muslim shouldn’t buy gasoline because it contains ethanol. It would be like buying eggs, home fries or pancakes at a diner where they are grilled in bacon fat.


12 posted on 11/14/2013 4:24:20 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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13 posted on 11/14/2013 4:29:48 AM PST by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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A couple of interesting facts from that pure gas webiste. My home state CT has no stations that carry pure gas. NY state has quite a few. Alot of them are boat marinas. Very few sell 87 octane which most cars recommend. Alaska: all gasoline is ethanol-free. Interesting facts.
14 posted on 11/14/2013 4:42:28 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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Saw a few prices and it looks like it now costs to NOT add the pop-corn to the gas. There is a place in Reno that sells 97 and 101 octane gas. I haven’t stopped to see if it has pop-corn in it or not. Only saw 2 places that “might” have non-ethanol gas in the whole state. When I was still working at KSC they were using multi/flex-fuel vehicles and more than once the NASA enviro guy chastised us for NOT using the ethanol and using the E-10 blend instead. They had it stored in big composite tanks above ground but we ignored him and went on about our business. We knew the evils of pop-corn gas.


15 posted on 11/14/2013 4:53:15 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Depending upon the cost of corn:

http://www.energyfuturecoalition.org/biofuels/fact_ethanol.htm#4


16 posted on 11/14/2013 4:53:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: LD Jackson
LD Jackson writing an article about an article at Huffington Post which was about an AP article.

Actually, AP has published a series of articles on the broader subject. You should read them.

17 posted on 11/14/2013 4:56:38 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: LD Jackson

Someone said, and I forget if it was Ronald Reagan or Milton Friedman, that the closest thing to eternal life is a government program.


18 posted on 11/14/2013 4:58:18 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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The whole ethanol fiasco is an exercise in absurdity, a thorough study of the facts will convince any open minded investigator that ‘IDIOCRACY’ is indeed a documentary of current conditions.


19 posted on 11/14/2013 5:25:19 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Graybeard58

Five cents? I have it available a mile from my house but it costs a DOLLAR a gallon more than the ethanol mix. At five cents a gallon difference a person would be crazy to buy ten percent ethanol.


20 posted on 11/14/2013 5:27:43 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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