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How To Skip Out On Obamacare Without Being Fined
Universal Free Press ^ | Oct. 25, 2013 | Corey Pepple

Posted on 11/10/2013 5:03:51 PM PST by T Ruth

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To: usconservative

There is currently only one way under the law to collect the fine/tax. That is to take it out of your tax refund. It is clearly written in the law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/13/readers-ask-we-answer-what-happens-if-you-dont-pay-obamacares-tax-penalty/

They would need to change the law to collect it any other way.

You can read it yourself around page 131.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf


41 posted on 11/10/2013 5:55:06 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: T Ruth

http://www.irs.gov/Payments


42 posted on 11/10/2013 5:56:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks for the link, but I didn’t see anything there about enforcement provisions.


43 posted on 11/10/2013 5:56:52 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Mich Patriot

“Ever heard of an IRS tax levy? If you have a job, the CAN get your money, and they WILL get it.”

Specifically prohibited under ppaca, as are liens.


44 posted on 11/10/2013 5:57:30 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks for the second link, but I believe that information applies to income and other taxes, not the Obamacare “penalty.”


45 posted on 11/10/2013 5:59:44 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth
The awesome thing about that is unless you are due a tax refund, the government will never see a dime of that money.

But they will remember and I don't know about penalties and interest.

46 posted on 11/10/2013 5:59:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: ozaukeemom

You are not listing.
The line IS there.
You just don’t really have to pay it!
Just pay the rest of the taxes due and ignore the “penalty”, there is nothing the IRS can do.


47 posted on 11/10/2013 6:02:57 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: digger48

You are WRONG know it all.
For political reasons, they drafted this as a tax without any enforcement penalties so they could claim it was not a tax until Roberts said it was a tax.


48 posted on 11/10/2013 6:03:53 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: T Ruth

I agree but I’m not convinced they don’t have a way. Maybe it’s going to be mob style...break our legs so we have a big fat bill because we didn’t buy health insurance.


49 posted on 11/10/2013 6:04:32 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fireone

Read the law.
You are wrong.
The is specifically NO enforcement power.


50 posted on 11/10/2013 6:05:31 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Iron Munro

All the things you mention are already being talked about.

A lady I work with went to the site and decided the coverage was too pricey. She received an e-mail from them detailing what could be done if she had no coverage...including property liens.

Since I am a doubting Thomas, I had an accountant friend who was attending a tax seminar ask about this. The answer was “absolutely”.

The law may have been written one way (who the he!! knows) and change at anytime since it seems to be evolving as we speak. These people, our government, are the biggest liars to ever walk the face of the earth. Did you hear the one about keeping your existing plan if you like it?


51 posted on 11/10/2013 6:06:05 PM PST by berdie
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To: Farnsworth

They DO NOT have such power, over ACA fines.
Learn something.
Read and remember some of us know these issues better than you.


52 posted on 11/10/2013 6:09:21 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: T Ruth

The IRS will simply apply your withheld taxes to the penalty *first*, and then come after you for the balance of *taxes* owed using their full enforcement arsenal.


53 posted on 11/10/2013 6:10:17 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: ltc8k6
There is currently only one way under the law to collect the fine/tax. That is to take it out of your tax refund. It is clearly written in the law.

That's what I said.

54 posted on 11/10/2013 6:12:04 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Orangedog
You are absurd. The law has NO enforcement provision for the ACA fine, other than tax refunds.
Think of it this way: There is NO enforcement for failure to buy Part B or Part D of Medicare, after you are first eligible, UNTIL you actually BUY Part B or Part D.
SAME THING!
This “fine” only applies against refunds, which makes some degree of sense since Obamacare is REALLY all about income and taxes.
Besides which, there are 4 pending Court cases which may well hold that the “Federal Exchanges” covering 36 States, have NO power to enforce any fines at all through the IRS!
55 posted on 11/10/2013 6:12:43 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: T Ruth
Claim a religious exemption.
56 posted on 11/10/2013 6:14:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: usconservative

You are WRONG!
There IS a line on the 1040, in fact an entire form for this ACA purpose.
The IRS simply can not ENFORCE any ACA tax beyond your refund otherwise due to you.


57 posted on 11/10/2013 6:14:26 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Mich Patriot
You are WRONG!
You have no experts on your side at all.
Even Obamacare supporters say that the lack of enforcement powers is a problem for them.
58 posted on 11/10/2013 6:16:30 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: ltc8k6

Thanks for your links. The WP article is actually informative.


59 posted on 11/10/2013 6:16:33 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Kansas58

On MY side? What the hell are you even talking about?

I see hundreds of tax levies a year. You go ahead and think I’m wrong, I know better.


60 posted on 11/10/2013 6:18:39 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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