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Too much of too little [Food stamps fuel poor diet, illness]
New York Times ^ | November 9, 2013 | Eli Saslow

Posted on 11/10/2013 4:30:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

McAllen, Tex. — They were already running late for a doctor’s appointment, but first the Salas family hurried into their kitchen for another breakfast paid for by the federal government. The 4-year-old grabbed a bag of cheddar-flavored potato chips and a granola bar. The 9-year-old filled a bowl with sugary cereal and then gulped down chocolate milk. Their mother, Blanca, arrived at the refrigerator and reached into the drawer where she stored the insulin needed to treat her diabetes. She filled a needle with fluid and injected it into her stomach with a practiced jab.

“Let’s go,” she told the children, rushing them out of the kitchen and into the car. “We can stop for snacks on our way home.”

The family checkup had been scheduled at the insistence of a school nurse, who wanted the Salas family to address two concerns: They were suffering from both a shortage of nutritious food and a diet of excess — paradoxical problems that have become increasingly interconnected in the United States, and especially in South Texas.

For almost a decade, Blanca had supported her five children by stretching $430 in monthly food stamp benefits, adding lard to thicken her refried beans and buying instant soup by the case at a nearby dollar store. She shopped for “quantity over quality,” she said, aiming to fill a grocery cart for $100 or less.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: education; foodstamps; nutrition; obesity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“For almost a decade, Blanca had supported her five children by stretching $430 in monthly food stamp ..

Would you call that support the mother’s or the people?
And what about the car? Poor people who have to work are usually fairly well in shape. Same for walking. We did both as children during WWII and never had health problems.
I’m all for helping people, but when you relieve them of responsibility you have harmed them.


21 posted on 11/10/2013 5:04:06 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Marie
The problem’s that the mom doesn’t want to actually cook. She’s not going for cheap. She’s going for instant, prepared foods. If she made her kids a big plate of scrambled eggs with a little cheese, a single slice of toast with real butter (or a small amount of pre-prepared rice), a glass of milk, and a 1/2 of a piece of fruit, it’d cost one hell of a lot less than the crap she’s feeding them now and she’d have enough to get them chewable vitamins.

Bump!

When you subsidize something you get more of it. These kids learn from her and she learned from her mother and... All these do-gooders are doing is crippling generations of what could have been productive - self-sufficient people.

22 posted on 11/10/2013 5:07:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You've just gotta love this great nation....home of the fattest “poor” people on earth.People who have,in fact,*chosen* poverty as their career at the urging of our Rat Party.
23 posted on 11/10/2013 5:07:38 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Tell you what, let's try a social experiment. Mayor Bloomberg and Moosechele Obummer want to dictate what you should and should not eat? Let's start with those on public nutrition support such as WIC or Food Stamps.

Let Moosechele and Mikey head a commission to determine which specific food items are eligible for purchase with public assistance funds. This assistance is in the form of debit cards these days, and even the smallest convenience store has a scanner at the check out. The systems can be programmed to accept or reject purchases based on a master list of "approved" items.

Limiting what these debit cards can purchase may also reduce their value as drug or sex barter.

Then we can see how well their policies work (or don't) on that group.

24 posted on 11/10/2013 5:08:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: manc

The point is, it isn’t necessarily the amount of food, it’s the kind of food—high sugar content foods cause obesity.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 5:11:12 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Marie

Absolutely, $4.50/day you can get 2000 calories of quality food (boring but healthy). If the story is even mostly true we are doomed.


26 posted on 11/10/2013 5:11:17 AM PST by muskah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Laziness causes poor diet. Poor people have poor ways.


27 posted on 11/10/2013 5:11:43 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: billhilly
...I’m all for helping people, but when you relieve them of responsibility you have harmed them.

They're more easily controlled when you remove responsibility (and their kids pick up those habits, the lifestyle - productive lives become depressed lives). Then working citizens are repeatedly told that they are greedy and need to fork over more of their money (to keep Democrat welfare voters going to the polls and pulling D).

28 posted on 11/10/2013 5:13:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m a big proponent of states taking a lead in this, to achieve a win-win. That is, the economics of farming is harsh, and having too good a year can wipe them out, by driving prices down.

But if states buy up some of the surplus, it helps its farmers tremendously. Storing it is very expensive, so it is cheaper to give it away to food stamp recipients as a seasonal “bonus”. This is also a big bonus nutritionally, because while it is not their first choice in food, which is often junk, they may eat it if it is free.

In practice, say there is a bumper crop of apples one year. Along with their food stamps they get a dozen apples that don’t count against their stamps. Though some refuse to eat apples and would throw them out or give them away, many would eat them, just because they have them and they’re free.

Farmers benefit, stores get rid of surplus inventory so have more stable prices, food stamp recipients get some better nutrition than just what they choose. And the total cost is probably offset by stabilizing farm prices, which produces larger tax revenues by minimizing losses.


29 posted on 11/10/2013 5:15:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It wouldn’t take much for the gov’t to require food stamps be used for fresh fruit, veggies, whole grains and no sodas, no sugary cereals, no cookies and chips- but they know there would be a revolt.

Seriously. Many of these people don’t work. They certainly have the time to use their welfare sponsored flour to make bread in their welfare sponsored apartment while their chirrens are at the gov’t sponsored schools eating welfare breakfast and welfare lunches.

Their job can be to be a good parent.


30 posted on 11/10/2013 5:16:35 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Yo-Yo

You make sense but the article tells us:

....”For more than half an hour, Canales listened to their concerns about his bill and another proposed by a lawmaker who wanted to eliminate candy and chips: Should government really be in the position of telling adults what to eat? And if so, who would be trusted to sort through the 40,000 items sold in a typical grocery store and divide healthy from unhealthy? If energy drinks were banned, why not also ban canned iced coffee that has twice the caffeine and triple the sugar? Or Sunny D fruit drink? Or Gatorade? Or fruit punch? And once every product had been rated and sorted, what if some grocery stores decided it was easier not to accept food stamps at all? Or what if food-stamp recipients felt too stigmatized to shop?”...


31 posted on 11/10/2013 5:16:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Too much, too often.

QUIT BREEDING! START WORKING!

or just go home....

32 posted on 11/10/2013 5:21:02 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I agree 100%.

My mother-in-law told me of an incident involving her mother and a neighbor (this problem is not a new). The neighbor let it be known that times were hard for her and that they didn’t have enough to eat. My mother-in-law described how her mother took flour, lard - all the ingredients to make bread over to this woman, who’s response was, “What am I supposed to do with this?” To which she was told, “Bake your own bread” (As she did - daily!). It was the last time she gave that woman any help.


33 posted on 11/10/2013 5:22:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here in NH you can use your EBT card at MacDonalds, Burger King & Taco Bell. So forget the healthy food. Until we take away those perks, nothing will change.


34 posted on 11/10/2013 5:24:09 AM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I take issue with the assertion in the article that it’s cheaper to buy packaged, pre-processed food than it is to buy fresh.

That’s just not true. Pound for pound, it’s much cheaper to buy fresh and un-processed foods. But you also have to be willing to put some time into preparation.

One of the issues is lack of motivation and discipline. Another is that carbohydrates are addictive. You crave them and they don’t satisfy for long.


35 posted on 11/10/2013 5:27:24 AM PST by randita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Speaking of generational, a social worker told me that a 6 year old child of a client of hers asked the social worker if, when she grew up, she would please be her case worker. The State is just a part of these peoples’ lives, cradle to grave. This is normalcy to them.


36 posted on 11/10/2013 5:29:07 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What’s lacking is intelligence and discipline.

Notice how the leftist ‘helping’ industry reframes the idea that government-funded food should be minimalistically nutritious as limiting the freedom of those living off it?


37 posted on 11/10/2013 5:33:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A lot of it is ignorance and laziness. It is far easier to eat carbs than actually cook.

I’d like to see every family mailed a sample menu each month along with their food stamp deposit to give them an idea how to cook and eat well.

Soups and stews are simple, filling and nutritious. You can hide a lot of cheap kale, legumes and green beans in a good soup or stew. Oatmeal, cream of wheat, or any hot cereal is cheap and very good for you. Kids will eat if you make the food taste good. It takes a little time and talent which can be learned.

I’ve seen this time and time again that people do not nor do they want to cook. They have to be encouraged to do this well.

There is nothing wrong with a rice and bean burrito as long as it isn’t slathered with lard.


38 posted on 11/10/2013 5:34:36 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If people would just do simple things. Buy bags of apples, carrots and celery and have at home.
I made a great stir fry last night with just chicken breast, celery, carrots and some cashews.
It was very simple, quick and didn’t cost a lot. It is easy and inexpensive to eat healthy food.


39 posted on 11/10/2013 5:35:15 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Their poor diets are due to the fact they can buy chips, cookies, candy, soda, energy drinks, cake, etc. And they buy a ton of those products.

None of which have a thing to do with nutrition. They are JUNK FOOD.

That is why this last generation of a long line of food stamp generations is the MOST FAT in history.

After they buy all this garbage junk food they then get cash back and by cigs, loto cards and booze.

Insist they use manufacture coupons to reduce the cost of REAL FOOD to make their food stamp $$ go further.

I’d much rather pay for TP, bar soap, and laundry soap, than for junk food. But the pit fall there is that they would just sell those items at below cost to their homeies.
Remove their right to buy these items, and NO CASH BACK and see how fast they go look for a job.


40 posted on 11/10/2013 5:41:45 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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