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To: dirtboy
What would impeachment do? Nothing. The Senate Dems will never vote to remove Obama or Holder.

Impeachment is appropriate whether the Dems do anything to support it or not. Not doing the approrpriate thing only adds to the message that Obama has done nothing wrong.

Articulate the message for impeachment, impeach and then let the chips fall where they may.

Win the battle in the loooong run.

9 posted on 11/08/2013 10:25:33 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Articulate the message for impeachment, impeach and then let the chips fall where they may.

What did the Dems learn from Clinton's impeachment? That a president can get away with just about anything as long as the Dems in the Senate won't vote to remove from office.

And that, IMO, has led directly to Obama and Holder acting with such impunity in the face of the law and the Constitution.

IMO the only effective action is in the House - in the form of withholding funding for certain federal actions. Too bad the leadership there doesn't have the stones for the job.

14 posted on 11/08/2013 10:38:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: FreeReign
You are right, but it exposes the biggest character failure of today's Republican.

If Republicans cannot be absolutely 110% certain of the final outcome of a multi-step series of actions with multiple consequence points, multiple votes, and multiple opportunities to appeal to the public, then they convince themselves that they are better off doing nothing at all.

They refuse to engage in the game in the first place.

-PJ

16 posted on 11/08/2013 10:44:12 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: FreeReign
Impeachment is appropriate whether the Dems do anything to support it or not. Not doing the appropriate thing only adds to the message that Obama has done nothing wrong.

Articulate the message for impeachment, impeach and then let the chips fall where they may.

Well said! I'm with you.

29 posted on 11/08/2013 2:42:18 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: FreeReign
I agree. Get all of crimes on the table and the msm will be forced to report.

Fast & Furious, IRS, Benghazi, Extortion 17, Libya, Syria, nonenforcement of immigration law, illegal campaign contributions, hell, throw in Walpin / Americorp too. I'm sure there's a few I've forgotten.

the Repubs better be sure they wear there big boy pants, not like they did for clinton and give him a Lewinski.

83 posted on 11/19/2013 10:01:40 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: FreeReign
Impeachment is appropriate whether the Dems do anything to support it or not. Not doing the approrpriate thing only adds to the message that Obama has done nothing wrong.

Impeachment is a political act, not a legal one. Taking on a no-win cause is a stupid thing to do politically, especially when the blow-back will be severe when it does fail.

89 posted on 11/20/2013 12:18:06 PM PST by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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