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Pensions: 'I Am A Retired Detroit Cop. I Hope This Will Not Happen To You.'
DeadlineDetroit ^ | Oct 30, 2013 | Brian Lawrence

Posted on 11/07/2013 2:36:09 PM PST by bkopto

I am a retired Detroit Police Officer and this is my story. I hope this will not happen to you.

I joined the Detroit Police Department in 1986. At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare. We were led to believe that this was to our benefit. We were told that we would be taken care of upon retirement with a pension and health care.

Today, this is no longer true. Because of the bankruptcy filing by the city of Detroit, the Emergency Manager has stripped me and my fellow officers of our health-care coverage and is trying to void our pension income.

I spent more than 23 years with the Detroit Police Department as a patrol officer. I patrolled the streets of Detroit. I answered calls for service. I did not have an administrative job, nor was I an executive. I have seen some really horrific scenes and fought against the worst violent acts that most people cannot even imagine.

I have uncovered babies from shallow graves, responded to domestic-violence incidents, armed robberries, and murder scenes. I have discovered heads blown off, double ax murders, and mummified bodies in abandoned buildings.

I have saved people from being killed. I have found lost children and returned missing relatives to safety when they wandered, were carjacked, or were taken away by force. And I have come into your home or the home of someone you know when help, safety, and security were needed to help the citizens of Detroit.

I have lost more friends in the line of duty than anyone should.

I have been shot at more times than you can count; and

I have been run over.

I loved my job.

In 1996, I was on my way back to the First Precinct after patrolling the streets. I proceeded through a green light near the precinct and was struck by a vehicle that ran a red light. I do not remember much about the accident because I was in a coma for six days. I had a very serious head injury. I was off work for nearly one year, then on restricted duty for two years.

I had to learn to eat and swallow again.

My head injury caused memory issues, which I have to this day.

I did not take a duty or medical retirement at the advice of my union. They told me not to worry---the retirement insurance coverage would take care of me. But that’s not true anymore.

I do not think I am special, nor do I think I am unique. I am like every other patrol officer in any other city. I worked hard. I earned everything I have. I do not want anyone to “give” me anything.

I do want what I earned --- my health-care coverage and pension.

Thank you for listening. I hope you do not experience the same treatment.


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Somebody call the Waaahmbulance! A union cop has a complaint against the taxpayers (who have much less generous pensions, if any at all)!
1 posted on 11/07/2013 2:36:09 PM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Hey, pal, spell “Money.”

“M O N E Y”

Nope, you forgot the “F”


2 posted on 11/07/2013 2:37:45 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: bkopto

You were used by your Union Reps so they could get RICH!


3 posted on 11/07/2013 2:40:39 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: bkopto
At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare.

How does that work, exactly?

4 posted on 11/07/2013 2:41:14 PM PST by wideawake
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To: bkopto
That doesn't entitle you to live off the taxpayer for 40 years.

My previous neighbor was a retired NY cop. He was about 44 years old. He started a second "career" for FedEx. The dude is going to be living off NYers for the next 30 or 40 years.

My other previous neighbor just retired from the city here in Arizona. She's 46. Her husband cut his hours down to part time because she is now making more money retired than she was working. Again, she'll be collecting for the next however meany decades.

My co-worker, from Long Island, her dad retired at 40 from some NYC union, then started another union job for the sewer workers. Did that--retired from both collecting both pensions for FOREVER.

And we laugh at Greece?

5 posted on 11/07/2013 2:41:39 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: bkopto

He made a big mistake: He believed the leftist government, the leftist union.

He didn’t pay SS, but didn’t put money aside for himself.

I wonder: Is he mad at the leftists who lied to him yet?


6 posted on 11/07/2013 2:41:39 PM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: henkster
Unfortunately there are hundreds like this police officer has shared. It is time that these people get the share they, like others have earned, earned not though misdeeds but by honest and dangerous work. Who amongst we non-police types will cast the first stone against what is legally coming to this ex-officer and his brethren?
7 posted on 11/07/2013 2:43:21 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: bkopto

And I ‘retired’ at age 40-something with a lavish pension and I WANT MINE!


8 posted on 11/07/2013 2:43:27 PM PST by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: bkopto
I joined the Detroit Police Department in 1986. At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare. We were led to believe that this was to our benefit.

Local and State government employees are exempt from Social Security and Medicare (Constitutional issue), but they may elect to participate as those government may determine. At one time, the military was also exempt, but that ended in 1957.

As local and perhaps even state governments begin to collapse, they will try to get the federal government to bail them out and will no doubt invent some story that the mean federal government shut them out of Social Security and so they deserve to be rescued. Politicians, of course, will sign up for this fiction.

9 posted on 11/07/2013 2:43:38 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Falcon4.0

He should get what us fools get on SS…1400 a month big deal..


10 posted on 11/07/2013 2:43:43 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: wideawake

Same deal in Kleptofornia. State workers pay into a deferred comp system run by the state. As such, they don’t pay social security, and are not eligible for the same. I have one brother, possibly two on that system. One works for BART, the other the state.


11 posted on 11/07/2013 2:44:28 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Progov

Lookslike there are a few out there who are not supporting this officer. Too bad for them!


12 posted on 11/07/2013 2:44:45 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: bkopto

If we private citizens want short and long term disability insurance we have to pay for it and it is expensive. I recommend everyone having both because what will you do in his situation if disabled.

That said, these public servants usually are underpaid so adding in disability insurance would be reasonable. That, and I agree most government pensions are too generous.


13 posted on 11/07/2013 2:45:20 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: wideawake

It’s the same with local employees here in CA (and, I believe, state employees too): they AREN’T TAXED FOR Social Security and Medicare, and thus aren’t eligible for them ... because they have their own retirement plans instead.

I worked for a CA city briefly and strongly preferred this approach. Social Security and Medicare are going bankrupt. Far better to pay into a smaller, privately INVESTED fund for retirement payouts and medical care. (Still less preferable than a free market, but hey.)


14 posted on 11/07/2013 2:47:23 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Progov

He should have looked both ways before proceeding through the green light.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 2:47:39 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: wideawake

“How does that work, exactly?”

I had a retired cop here in NJ describe it to me; as I recall, he thought that because his taxpayer-funded pension was so far above what most people would collect under Social Security, and because he could retire so young, it was almost viewed as “double dipping” if he could also collect SS. He didn’t mention the healthcare part.


16 posted on 11/07/2013 2:48:13 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: riri
The dude is going to be living off NYers for the next 30 or 40 years.

No he won't.

You can't fight math.

17 posted on 11/07/2013 2:49:20 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: Cboldt

Like others here have suggested... I’d like to see his voting record.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 2:50:05 PM PST by Lake Living
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To: bkopto
I do want what I earned --- my health-care coverage and pension.

I am sorry that politicians made promises that they never intended to fulfill.
I am sorry that the Government promised to loot all of the earnings and possessions of the private citizens to fund the pensions and benefits for Government workers.
I am sorry that Government workers did not object to implementation of benefit programs that would clearly destroy the economy and require virtual theft and impoverishment of private citizens.
I am sorry that we routinely elect liars and thieves.

I am sorry that you did not set aside some of your earnings (not shrunk due to FICA deductions) to fund your own pension (e.g., 401k).

19 posted on 11/07/2013 2:50:36 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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A contract is a contract and should be honored. I pity those that lost their pensions through govt corruption. But it’s not the taxpayers’ problem.

I trust this guy was a good cop, and I regret his injuries. I hope he finds a good path.

While on the subject of injuries, let’s not forget about the troops the come home injured, and especially those that didn’t make it home alive.


20 posted on 11/07/2013 2:51:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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