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To: sickoflibs
So far shutdowns haven't produced anything good.

And why is that? Is it because the ideas of a smaller, more responsible government are wrong, or is it because the GOPe betrayed those ideas?

102 posted on 11/06/2013 8:52:27 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig
RE :”So far shutdowns haven't produced anything good.
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And why is that?”

Its because not every Republican in congress was elected by a bright Red state ,or bright red district in House.
Because they all have their own constituents and voters.

This case had another wrinkle.
The shutdown or threat of one was supposed to get Reid and Obama to pass a defund bill.

But the shutdown didnt defund Obamacare as it was exempt.

So soon after the GOP was talking instead about partial funding bills and deficit reduction unrelated to Obamacare.

No real plan
No real expection of victory(making Obama-cave on Obamacare)
No team cohesiveness (only got 19 of 100, everyone knew Bohner would pass Senate bill eventually)

Dems never would have passed Obamacare if they fought like this in 2007 and 2008.

106 posted on 11/06/2013 9:14:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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