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To: Boogieman
You don’t seem to grasp the “logic” of leftists. And calling subsidy "profit" is falling for their line. Intensive farming did not come out of the private sector at all.

And the communists did indeed set up factory farming, in fact. Where do you think the USA got the idea? From the USSR.
32 posted on 11/06/2013 9:28:13 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

In the 1960’s the Soviet Union imported millions of tons of wheat from the U.S.

The Soviets did indeed practice “factory farming” and their farms like their factories were so inefficient that they weren’t able to feed their people and their live stock at the same time and couldn’t even afford to pay for their imports without financing for the surplus wheat they purchased.

By contrast the private ownership and operation of farms in the U.S. has been the most efficient in the world precisely because the U.S. farmer is not a factory worker but a cross between artist and business owner seeking to ever greater efficiency to survive and prosper.


33 posted on 11/06/2013 10:28:28 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Olog-hai

“You don’t seem to grasp the “logic” of leftists. And calling subsidy “profit” is falling for their line.”

It’s all the same on a company’s books, because it all feeds into the same bottom line. There is no separate total for subsidies at the bottom of the page. This is not “leftist logic”, it is basic business accounting. In fact, at a business I do accounting for, they have a building where 90% of the rents are paid by federal subsidy. Where is the subsidy accounted for? Right there at the top of the income statement, where other non-subsidized buildings would have their normal rental income.

To a business, the only difference between subsidies and other sources of income is that subsidies are reliable and predictable, month after month, year after year, while other income varies. That’s one reason why many businesses actively seek subsidies, because they are a cushion against economic cycles.

“And the communists did indeed set up factory farming, in fact.”

Oh, they did, did they? Then you should have no problem finding examples of such and posting them for us.

“Where do you think the USA got the idea?”

The USA doesn’t get any ideas; people get ideas. I’m not sure who first thought of factory farming, but I am certain it was a business owner who realized they could make more money out of a limited amount of capital by innovating their processes, just like capitalists always do.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 11:06:36 AM PST by Boogieman
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