[KC_Lion]

Yes but it was the Election of Lincoln that drove the south into Rebellion, but you are right in 1856 Fremont captured enough votes and states taht it showed that Anti-Slavery Republicans could win without the support of the Slave States.

The Mere Idea that the Republicans weren't going to be the Get Along Gang with the Spread of Slavery to Kansas and the rest of Rest was enough to touch off the Civil War.

[John S Mosby]

Excellent points and spot on. The key element in all this discussion is that State’s Rights are NOT going to be abated, and the States must continue to draw the line. Cuccinelli was the first AG to contend obamaumaocare. What, if anything will this criminal mcawful attempt— exchanges in VA. The debacle of this national nightmare is only just unfolding— and at the State house level will NOT be addressed no matter what “guarantees” hitlery will try to make— which of course she can do nothing more than lie.

The bedroom state of NoVA needs to get off the teat. What a pit it is of users and teat suckers. And of course military industrial beltway bandits.