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Guns & Ammo Supports Gun Control
The Truth About Guns.com ^ | 11/2/2013 | Robert Farago

Posted on 11/03/2013 5:56:29 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama

Click here to download a pdf of Guns & Ammo‘s column Let’s Talk Limits. Technical Editor Dick Metcalf [above] penned the editorial for the December issue. Metcalf, a writer whose technical knowledge (or lack thereof) has earned him brickbats before, bases his editorial on a distinction between “infringement” and “regulation.” “I bring this up,” Metcalf writes, “because way too many gun owners still believe that any regulation of the right to keep and bear arms is an infringement. The fact is that all Constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.” That, dear reader, is a major WTF moment. One of many . . .

Metcalf’s dietribe [sic] turns to the antis’ favorite justification for infringing on our natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms: you “Can’t yell ‘FIRE!’ in a crowded theater.” Yes. Yes you can. It’s just that you’re legally responsible for what happens next. And what happens next in Metcalf’s editorial is bizarre—especially for an article that appears in a gun magazine:

Many argue that any regulation at all is, by definition, an infringement. If that were true, then the authors of the Second Amendment themselves, should not have specified “well-regulated.”

You’re kidding, right? Metcalf doesn’t know that “well-regulated” is “referring to the property of something being in proper working order“? That it has nothing to do with government regulation? No way!

Way. Sure Metcalf’s bone-headed, uninformed, patently obvious misinterpretation of the Second Amendment’s introductory clause isn’t as bad as the antis’ assertion that the 2A only applies to Americans in a militia, but it’s the next worst thing. Coming from a gun guy, a man who trumpets the fact that he co-wrote The Firearm Owners Protection Act and taught college seminars on Constitutional law, well, I’m speechless.

Too bad Metcalf isn’t. Once again, he turns to the antis’ well-worn fundamentally flawed pro-regulation arguments to advocate gun control. He deploys ye olde auto analogy to defend state-issued carry permits against readers who believe that Second Amendment is the only authority they need to bear arms.

I wondered whether those same people believed that just anybody should be able to buy a vehicle and take it out on public roadways without any kind of driver’s training, test or license.

I understand that driving a car is not a right protected by the Constitution, but to me the basic principle is the same. I firmly believe that all U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms, but . . .

I’m going to stop there. Anyone who says “I believe in the Second Amendment but–” does not believe in the Second Amendment. They are not friends, they are not frenemies, they are enemies of The People of the Gun.

More than that, whether or not these nominal gun rights supporters (e.g., President Obama, Senator Charles Schumer) “believe” in the Second Amendment is irrelevant. As stated above, the right to keep and bear arms is a natural right, stemming from our natural right of self-defense. It doesn’t require belief, faith or political justification.

Equally, the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right. Wikipedia defines the term thusly:

Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals’ freedom from unwarranted infringement by governments and private organizations, and ensure one’s ability to participate in the civil and political life of the state without discrimination or repression.

Civil rights include the ensuring of peoples’ physical and mental integrity, life and safety; protection from discrimination on grounds such as race, gender, national origin, color, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, or disability; and individual rights such as privacy, the freedoms of thought and conscience, speech and expression, religion, the press, assembly and movement.

I have a major issue with the word “unwarranted” (wikipedia won’t let me delete it). But the point is made: Americans have a civil right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by . . . wait for it . . . the Constitution. Specifically, the Second Amendment. This despite the fact that . . .

Civil and political rights need not be codified to be protected, although most democracies worldwide do have formal written guarantees of civil and political rights. Civil rights are considered to be natural rights. Thomas Jefferson wrote in his A Summary View of the Rights of British America that “a free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.”

So civil means natural, and natural means inviolable. Except by people who support their violation. People like Dick Metcalf, who ends his pro-gun control polemic by asserting that Illinois’ new carry law—mandating that citizens must complete 16 hours of training to “earn” the right to bear arms— is not “infringement in and of itself.”

“But that’s just me . . .” Metcalf closes. Yes it is. And I believe that anyone who supports a gun magazine that prints this kind of anti-gun agitprop is supporting the diminution and destruction of our gun rights. Or is that just me? [h/t b0b]


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: 2nd amendment mama
What a bunch of crap from a magazine that the late Colonel Jeff Cooper was a part of (Cooper's Corner).

Also the late Bob Milek and Elmer Keith.

I still get it, seldom read it except for new things coming out.

Won't be renewing my subscription if that clown stays on staff.

61 posted on 11/03/2013 9:11:42 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

The internet has made Guns and Ammo obsolete. When I want to read reviews of a firearm that interests me, I read posts from well known and trusted folks on gun forums. If I want to see a firearm in action, youtube is the place to go.

Guns and Ammo can’t be objective in their reviews lest they lose advertising. Eventually it will fade away.


62 posted on 11/03/2013 9:31:07 AM PST by Tailback
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To: RKBA Democrat

Glock is a poor imitation of a (pick one... US military side arm) 1911(A1), berretta 9, Sig M11, S&W Victory Model, Colt SAA, and a dozen or more other handguns I would carry before a Glock.


63 posted on 11/03/2013 9:37:57 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Buffalo Head

I’ve known all of this for years too! So....take your welcome aboard comment and shove it! The NRA has been complicit in enacting all of these laws too.


64 posted on 11/03/2013 10:03:30 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Vaquero

I’m kind of partial to combat tupperware. But like anything, its an acquired taste. I sure wouldn’t complain if someone gave me a 1911 or Sig. I’d probably sell a Beretta.

I’m getting to where I don’t like the semiautos as much as I once did. I might go back to a revolver.


65 posted on 11/03/2013 10:18:15 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like a Ruger 9mm to me!!


66 posted on 11/03/2013 10:19:13 AM PST by ontap
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I just this weekend got my renewal form. It went right in the recycle bin.


67 posted on 11/03/2013 10:23:43 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Thanks for the heads up. Those bastards ain;t gonna get anything out of me.

Lifelong subscriber to Soldier of Fortune since late 90’s.


68 posted on 11/03/2013 10:24:49 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: RKBA Democrat

love my bone stock 1943 vintage, us govt. property labeled 1911A1 Remington rand the best. my Model 19 S&W revolver in .357 mag revolver is the sweetest shooter though. and I have a 1961 vintage Colt Single Action Army. gotta love that revolver. and my .45 Ruger vaqueros and a .44 mag Ruger Redhawk are almost impossible to break....workhorses.

I have no Tupperware....but my son has a nice little Ruger LCP in .380 and it is like carrying air. way to whippy to shoot than my colt mustang, .380 but boy you can wear it unnoticed all day and nite and even in you PJs.... there is a place for light armament.


69 posted on 11/03/2013 10:38:24 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Guess Guns and Ammo will be going out of business, now that we have read their suicide note.


70 posted on 11/03/2013 10:39:18 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

My ‘welcome aboard’ comment was not aimed at you, so what is your point?


71 posted on 11/03/2013 10:47:34 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

My December issue of Guns & Ammo came with a renewal notice “This is Your Last Issue!” How prophetic.


72 posted on 11/03/2013 10:52:58 AM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: usconservative
Up for renewal, won’t be renewing my subscription.

I've done that many times, but it doesn't make the same statement as taking the effort to cancel for a cause.

73 posted on 11/03/2013 10:55:51 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Buffalo Head

Well gee...your comments were posted to me....


74 posted on 11/03/2013 10:55:53 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: ansel12
I've done that many times, but it doesn't make the same statement as taking the effort to cancel for a cause.

So not renewing for cause is different from canceling for a cause how?

75 posted on 11/03/2013 11:04:30 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Gun control was invented by the KKK and implemented by their political arm, the Democratic Party. In the South it was directed against blacks and in the North against urban minorities...think Irish or Italian or other Southern Europeans. The 2nd Amendment makes it clear to government that Americans need no permit or permission to carry.


76 posted on 11/03/2013 11:10:09 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’m from Chicago and Metcalf’s wrong. The permit process itself is an infringement and our gun laws were created to prevent minorities from owning the means of protection and resistance. This is Obamacountry.


77 posted on 11/03/2013 11:13:53 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: usconservative

People can not renew for all kinds of reasons it is a routine, everyday part of the business, but taking the time to contact them and tell them you are canceling for reason X, goes on a scorecard and tells them why you are leaving them.


78 posted on 11/03/2013 11:17:21 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
The first line in my post included the comment, "....“Yes, but why did it take him so long to recognize the truth?”."

You did not notice "him"? My comment was aimed at "him".

So, on just which side are you? Allies do not insult each other.

79 posted on 11/03/2013 11:21:26 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Vaquero

No surprise that the revolver shoots best. I like the tupperware because, like a revolver, it is very much a pure point and click interface. And they are lighter to carry. The Glock was a revolutionary change, but at this point I think that a few of the other tupperware manufacturers do it better.

That said, I see going back to a revolver in the not too distant future.


80 posted on 11/03/2013 11:38:04 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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