[Chgogal]

Did you understand what Rove was saying about the 90 million of the 150 million Americans who receive their insurance through their employers? Rove says about 90 million will not be affected because of a law called ERISA.

I cannot find anything to support what Rove said.

[rodguy911]

I think Rove was talking about Medicaid and Medicare who won't be effected. They are truly grandfathered in. Then there are the unions and friends of ozero, govt.employees all of whom will not be effected.

That leaves about 60 million plus illegals.They pay either fines, go on Medicaid,or get discounted policies courtesy of subsidies. All that are left are the poor schulbs who actually pay for zero care since they have no other way out or don't know anyone. They pay full price get little or nothing for it with super high deductibles and watch their prices climb every year.

All this angst/bitterness,destruction when all the while health care was fine. The big problem was the economy. It wasn't health care.You couldn't dream shit like this up. It just had to happen its so bizarre.

[maica]

Did you understand what Rove was saying about the 90 million of the 150 million Americans who receive their insurance through their employers?

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So another 60 (sixty) million Americans will be affected by this law? Add that to the "only" 5 (five) million Americans who have been paying for their own policies.

Compute that these numbers mean workers, aka heads of families, not individuals, and you have almost every American that is not on Medicare or Medicaid today.