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Meet the “Dark Mail Alliance” Planning to Keep the NSA Out of Your Inbox
Slate ^ | OCT. 30 2013 12:01 PM | Ryan Gallagher

Posted on 11/02/2013 6:19:49 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy

Email might be on the verge of a radical makeover. And the NSA is not going to like it.

On Wednesday, two American companies with a track record of offering encrypted private communications are set to join forces in an unprecedented bid to counter dragnet Internet spying. Some of the world’s top cryptographers are behind the secure communications provider Silent Circle,

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: darkmail; email; nsa; security
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Where there is need, someone will supply it. The small group of colleagues who set up the first email accounts can hardly be faulted for not implementing security for chat among themselves. They were probably so ecstatic that email worked at all to think of security. This new method of email encryption fixes that lack, and is the way it has to be.
1 posted on 11/02/2013 6:19:50 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy
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To: SandwicheGuy

I’m still waiting to hear about a StartMail account.


2 posted on 11/02/2013 6:22:53 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: SandwicheGuy; CodeToad; Joe Brower; Lazamataz
Lavabit was shut down for doing it.


3 posted on 11/02/2013 6:22:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: vette6387; mazda77; flat; unkus; gonzo; Nachum; justiceseeker93; overbore; freekitty; ...

PING


4 posted on 11/02/2013 6:28:13 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SandwicheGuy

bookmark


5 posted on 11/02/2013 6:29:33 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SandwicheGuy

I seriously doubt the power elite will allow it


6 posted on 11/02/2013 6:33:41 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder
I seriously doubt the power elite will allow it

We are the power. When the time has come, it will happen.

7 posted on 11/02/2013 6:39:21 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: SandwicheGuy

Sort of related.

Seed entreprenours sought for the Isher Company.

First up, two items.

Aerial denial weapon. Will physically take down anything inside a perimeter cheaply, passively and undetectably.

Area denial weapon. Will deny access to any land area for hundreds of years or with an expiry date, all in the size of a cigarette box. No countermeasures with todays technology.


8 posted on 11/02/2013 6:45:11 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: SandwicheGuy

bump


9 posted on 11/02/2013 6:45:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: SandwicheGuy

the feds leaned on the founder/prez of Lavabit and he was given an ultimatum: give up the cyrptokeys or fold. He folded. They’ll do the same to SC.


10 posted on 11/02/2013 7:00:44 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

From the article: “the secret keys generated to encrypt the communications will be ephemeral, meaning they are deleted after each exchange of messages.”

Meaning it’s public key and there are no encryption keys to give up. To break it the NSA or another attacker either has to be able to break the protocol without the key or mount a man-in-the-middle attack — feasible against particular targets, probably not feasible against the whole internet.


11 posted on 11/02/2013 7:12:02 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Meaning it’s public key and there are no encryption keys to give up. To break it the NSA or another attacker either has to be able to break the protocol without the key or mount a man-in-the-middle attack — feasible against particular targets, probably not feasible against the whole internet.

You got it. Good gauge, as my Marine buddy says.

12 posted on 11/02/2013 7:22:20 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: Hardraade

The tales I heard about artificial ionization shields required great power.

They were used in the Fauklands battle. We supplied the Brits from what I was told.

Cannot imagine a generator that is small and portable.


13 posted on 11/02/2013 7:24:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: SandwicheGuy

Maybe they will create a truly private and protected product. But if they do, the NSA will offer the company a boat-load for ‘back doors’. The government has all the fiat money in the world.
Any company that does this has to be backed by governments that oppose US spying.


14 posted on 11/02/2013 7:27:16 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Nope. Passive. And cheap.

Just a matter of rearranging cutting edge tech ;).

The Brits didn’t have *anything* in the Falklands, getting themselves blown up by Exocets.


15 posted on 11/02/2013 7:30:14 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Hardraade

Those are interesting products!

Watch your back.:-)


16 posted on 11/02/2013 7:30:52 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: grumpygresh

When there is a need, someone will supply it. Drugs, money, sex, fast food... smile. This is a grass roots movement, like the Tea Party in a way. Our government stands in the way at the administration’s peril.


17 posted on 11/02/2013 7:33:10 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: Nervous Tick

Well, here’s the thing. Once the knowledge is out, they can be made by anyone, or the tech will accomodate that path, like with 3D printing.

No way of putting the genie back in the bottle, and I’ve decided it’s time for an open bottle. Would be nice if we could ride the genie to some profit, though.

And no worries, the knowledge is already distributed.


18 posted on 11/02/2013 7:38:53 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Hardraade
Available soon at your nearest Weapons Shop.



19 posted on 11/02/2013 7:44:00 PM PDT by Tawiskaro
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To: grumpygresh
"Any company that does this has to be backed by governments that oppose US spying. "

Felix Dzerzhinsky comes to mind...

20 posted on 11/02/2013 7:48:26 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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