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‘A black eye around the world’: Rand Paul wants Obama to address Pope spying
The Daily Caller ^ | 10/31/2013 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 10/31/2013 5:48:25 PM PDT by markomalley

Calling the allegations a “black eye” for the country, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Thursday that President Obama should come clean about whether United States has been spying on Pope Francis.

“If we’re targeting religious leaders around the world and collecting their data, that’s a real problem,” Paul told The Daily Caller.

“And really right now, it’s giving us a black eye around the world that it turns out we spy on people’s personal phones around the world, including the chancellor of Germany,” Paul said. “So I don’t think this is a good thing for the diplomatic relations for the country, particularly if we’re doing this on a religious leader.”

The Italian magazine, Panorama, reported that the National Security Agency may have intercepted phone calls before and after the Pope’s election.

On Thursday, Paul introduced a resolution in the Senate that states that, “President Obama should directly address the serious allegation whether his administration monitored the calls of Pope Francis or the conclave selecting the Pope.”

NSA officials are denying the report. “The National Security Agency does not target the Vatican,” Vanee’ Vines, an NSA spokeswoman, said Thursday. “Assertions that NSA has targeted the Vatican, published in Italy’s Panorama magazine, are not true.”

But speaking by phone Thursday, Paul expressed skepticism about the denial. “Basically, I’m concerned that they would just basically define it as not being spying when they are collecting data,” he said. “I think it’s a pretty important question.”

Paul referenced how Obama administration officials in the past have said they aren’t conducting surveillance on Americans even though they were “collecting the hell out of all your data.”

“It really should cause some difficult questioned from the media,” Paul elaborated. “For example, if I were in the media, I would be asking the NSA, ‘What do you mean you’re not spying on the Pope? Does that mean you collected no data?”

As for why he would like President Obama to address the allegations, Paul said: “Particularly when there’s confusion about whether the president has any idea what’s going on in surveillance around the world — he says he doesn’t know what’s going on with our spying on our allies — I think he needs to look into this a bit.”

Asked when he thinks spying on foreign leaders is acceptable, Paul said: “I think spying on our allies is probably not something that does good to our relations with allies.”

“It’s one thing to acknowledge that there’s some surveillance going on around the world, but there’s absolutely no justification I can think of to spy on a religious leader,” Paul said. “I think this should unite everyone. And I think really it should cause an outcry.”


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1 posted on 10/31/2013 5:48:25 PM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 10/31/2013 5:50:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: markomalley
There is no reason for the NSA or Obama to spy on the Pope. If they did this, it's disgusting and I imagine it was done because we have a bunch of juveniles who have ahold of the technology with which to do this; IOW, they get off on the power. When will this nightmare be over?
3 posted on 10/31/2013 5:56:46 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter
There is no reason for the NSA or Obama to spy on the Pope.

The only reason I can think of is seeking information for possible blackmail (if needed). This has been a typical Obama tactic long before he became pResident. Finding skeletons in closets is how he moved up the ladder.

Perhaps those who think Roberts was threatened by Obama have a point. Before hearing about this spying on the Pope I looked at the those people as conspiracy theorists. I'm going to have another look now.

4 posted on 10/31/2013 6:19:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: markomalley

Hey, we no longer spy on our allies, since they have all become our enemies.


5 posted on 10/31/2013 6:20:02 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: musicman

If like your religion, you can keep your religion. If you already have a religious leader, you can keep your religious leader...


6 posted on 10/31/2013 6:23:10 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: markomalley

Huh. So, Obastard is looking in to the Holy See?


7 posted on 10/31/2013 6:27:15 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: markomalley

“Particularly when there’s confusion about whether the president has any idea what’s going on in surveillance around the world — he says he doesn’t know what’s going on with our spying on our allies — I think he needs to look into this a bit.”

I suppose Obama could look into this, but the NBA regular season just started, so ...................


8 posted on 10/31/2013 6:34:08 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: markomalley

You can bet that this administration did NOT spy on his buddies in the middle east - the ROP crowd.


9 posted on 10/31/2013 6:34:40 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: markomalley

I heard on EWTN that Pope Francis has been tracked for years

this is sick


10 posted on 10/31/2013 6:46:42 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: tsowellfan
Good point. Perhaps Pelosi, being the good Catholic she is, wanted the goods on Pope Francis in case he decides to excommunicate her.
11 posted on 10/31/2013 6:48:57 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

“When will this nightmare be over?”

Never. It’s the nature of government to grow, usurp power, and infringe on liberty. We’re past the tipping point.


12 posted on 10/31/2013 7:13:13 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: markomalley

I would like Rand Paul to apologize for voting for sodomites to openly serve in the Military.


13 posted on 10/31/2013 7:22:11 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: markomalley
The person involved in an intercept is known as a "target". Someone has to take action to get particular communications intercepted. It doesn't happen on its own. Thus the Pope was a target and the Obamanistas are bold-faced liars.
14 posted on 10/31/2013 8:40:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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