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To: lbryce; xzins

If anyone thinks that the problem will be solved if and when the website is fixed and once people can shop for insurance online, They are sadly mistaken.

The big problem will arise once people start to get the quotes for the insurance if they’re going to have to buy.

I believe the website was deliberately sabotaged so that people cannot get their Obamacare quotes until their existing insurance has already been canceled.


8 posted on 10/30/2013 12:25:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe; lbryce

And I just can’t wait until the true cost hits the people and then the true cost hits the budget.

The budget can’t stand another trillion dollar expense. The Fed can’t hold down interest rates forever. And then it will be the great depression all over again.


14 posted on 10/30/2013 12:45:10 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe; lbryce; jazusamo; onyx; wmfights

The dirty little secret that Fox and others are not revealing is that THIS is the reason they did not want the individual mandate and the business mandate to hit at the same time. They wanted this one a year before the election, and the wanted the other to be 2 years before the 16 presidential.

Why?

Because they do THE SAME THING.

The individual mandate requires individuals to get AN APPROVED PLAN. (You can’t keep your plan, no matter what it says.)

The Business mandate does virtually the same. Only APPROVED PLANS are acceptable. Any plan that doesn’t meet the government standard will be disapproved or penalized. That is why Hobby Lobby and others are fighting. They don’t want that approved plan because it must have in it abortion and contraceptive coverage. I think they were told their penalty for non-compliance would be millions a day, iirc.

Many more millions than with the individual will have their medical insurance turned upside down, ripped away from them, and/or seriously increased in price. If you’re not fined, but have to increase your costs a huge amount, don’t you pass that on to the employee? Or to the customer? Many firms will simply not hire at all. Any employee receiving a subsidy will cause the firm to be fined. It’s just a tangled, chaotic mess.

That’s the truth. It’s in the law.

This is not being addressed by the media, including Fox. They truly believe they just have a “ventilation” time for people to bytch and moan, and then folks will forget about it. Then they’ll do it again after next year’s mid-terms. The employer mandate will be effective 1 Jan 2015, nearly 2 years before the presidential election.


25 posted on 11/04/2013 10:09:01 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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