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To: RoosterRedux

I have been trying to understand for a long time why this hasn’t been done much earlier. You would think Republicans would be smart enough to to file a constitution violation suit a long time ago in the knowledge that if Obama wanted to delay the Employer Mandate it meant that the Mandate would adversely effect the economy and the Democrat hopes in the 2014 elections. I am beginning to believe that the Republican party should get an “A” for “Dumb”.


4 posted on 10/30/2013 8:35:25 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I never understood why there was very little said about Obama unilaterally delaying the employer mandate part of Obamacare.

We are a constitutional republic. A president has certain defined powers, as do other branches of government. I think it’s questionable that the president can issue a decree to change or delay legislation passed by Congress, as Obama did here.

Well, Obama has apparently gotten away with this. He will probably try other things, to expand his powers, since he is getting away with this one. He will push the envelope unless constrained in any way.


9 posted on 10/30/2013 8:39:03 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“I am beginning to believe that the Republican party should get an “A” for “Dumb”.”

The Republican establishment is not dumb. The Republican establishment is a tool of Wall Street and the multinational corporations. Big business wants to stop providing health care benefits for employees. It supports the strategy of moving to single payer health care fully funded by the government. The elimination of health care premiums for employees will increase profits dramatically.

The Republican Party establishment gives lip service to its voting base through anti-Obamacare rhetoric. However, as the recent government shutdown charade demonstrated, the party bosses have no desire to actually fight against government paid healthcare. They serve their Wall Street masters who actually fund the party coffers. Don’t expect any change if they capture the Senate in 2014 and White House in 2016.


14 posted on 10/30/2013 8:51:17 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
It seemed to me that when the law was passed, there were quite a few things that were to be "at the discretion of the HHS Secretary".

I'm not sure that the mandate was one of those things, but I'm pretty sure that Congress has ceded a lot of their authority to the Executive branch in the last few years.

15 posted on 10/30/2013 8:52:04 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I give up on the Republicans. They are no help whatsoever. They should be hammering Sebelius today. But Nooooo.


20 posted on 10/30/2013 8:54:27 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
You would think Republicans would be smart enough to...

Did you seriously just type that?

28 posted on 10/30/2013 9:30:07 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You must have standing in the court to file a suit. You have to be able to show how this law hurts *you* personally. You can’t just sue because it’s wrong.

Finding an appropriate group who’s willing fight the suit, a solid legal team that’s willing to take the case, and the money to bring a case to the level of the SC isn’t easy.


30 posted on 10/30/2013 9:35:16 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
You would think Republicans would be smart enough to to file a constitution violation suit a long time ago in the knowledge that if Obama wanted to delay the Employer Mandate it meant that the Mandate would adversely effect the economy and the Democrat hopes in the 2014 elections. I am beginning to believe that the Republican party should get an “A” for “Dumb”.

Fighting the delay of the Employer Mandate would tick off too many of the GOP-e's K street buddies.

Notice how they didn't lift a finger to help out the penny public. Because the GOP-e answers to K street, not us.
36 posted on 10/30/2013 9:55:47 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
You would think Republicans would be smart enough to.....

LOL

64 posted on 10/31/2013 4:29:16 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I couldn’t agree more. I know its not a popular position here, but I see no benefit at all from the shutdown. The proper course of action would have been to demand compliance with the law, and insist all provisions go into effect in accordance with what the law says. The Democrats own this...and should be forced to live with the consequences.


66 posted on 11/01/2013 10:05:00 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I see a flaw in your logic: you used Republican and smart in the same premise. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Never use an oxymoron it making a cogent argument. It undermines the argument.
68 posted on 11/01/2013 7:04:52 PM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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