[Pan_Yan]

Yeah, but he was interesting. And boy could he spin up people incapable of articulating or defending their positions. Fun to watch.

[Lakeshark]

He was often fun to converse with, with an understated sense of humor, and yes, he could mess up the minds of those who had not thought through their positions very well.

I enjoyed messing up his own peculiar (aka "progressive") ideas while posting with him, for some reason he actually told me what he believed; he didn't like so much to have the tables turned on him, but was a good sport about it.

As I remember, he self banned, meaning he got sick of the "natural born" threads about Obama. I think he could still come back and post, I don't think he was ever zotted by JR.