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Friends and family have described the boy as a well-liked eighth-grader who played the trumpet and basketball and had a good sense of humor.

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1 posted on 10/27/2013 9:02:53 PM PDT by Rabin
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2 posted on 10/27/2013 9:10:26 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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We live in a totalitarian nation. When will all of the FReepers going to acknowledge this. Bye Bye the America that we thought.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 9:11:02 PM PDT by Digger
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The important thing is that these two LEOs went home safe and sound to their families.


4 posted on 10/27/2013 9:11:36 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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You just have to wonder how much more of this the public is going to tolerate! Cops now unholster their weapons at the slightest provocation and the usually kill their “victim.” Then it’s easier to lie their way out of the killing. Just such a totally unnecessary tragedy, and I will bet that the “killers” are back on the job before the year is over.


5 posted on 10/27/2013 9:12:13 PM PDT by vette6387
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What the h? You don’t shoot someone for carrying a rifle - even a real one.

This is either only part of the story of these cops are seriously in trouble - or not. This is California where it’s illegal to think about owning a gun.

By the way, thanks to all libs in California and elsewhere who have contributed to this lad’s death by fanning gun hysteria. It’s largely on YOU.


6 posted on 10/27/2013 9:13:10 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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So the 911 tapes for the suspicious person have already been released, yes? I mean, of course, that would be the first thing that local press would request from the police department, and of course the police department immediately complied in order to make this as transparent an investigation as possible..

Is there a single example in the Unites States of a similar incident, in broad daylight, where an armed citizen gunned down a young man and did not immediately go straight to jail?

You do this, I do this, we're going to jail, there will be murder charges filed against us. We would not be put on administrative leave and sent home to hug our loved ones. The basis of law in this country is that all are supposed to be equal before the courts, but the reality is that there are two different legal standards.

That has to end. Blanket immunity has to end, open season on dogs has to end, open season on citizens has to end. I'm still waiting for charges to be filed for this incident where 102 bullets pierced a moving vehicle where no weapon was ever observed. It was blind luck that the home that was the backstop for that shooting happened to be unoccupied.

Officers who were defending a possible target in a manhunt mistakenly identified two small women as being a large black man. As you can see in the picture at the link, officers purposefully targeted the driver and the passenger, attempting to take them out. That both survived (one with minor injuries no less) was a miracle.

How would this have gone down if an armed citizen had done this? Would they be facing a review board and possible administrative discipline, or would they be trying to figure out where they were going to move to, as their house and pretty much all of their personal property was just about to be taken, either by the defense team, or whatever is left over, by the litigants who will win their personal injury case?

11 posted on 10/27/2013 9:31:46 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Cops have adopted a rule of just standing off and gunning down any possible threat that enters their view, almost like a flawed cop robot.

People forget that the female Highway patrolwoman was getting ready to gun down Rodney King as her husband watched from their patrol car, when the LAPD showed up and probably saved his life.


18 posted on 10/27/2013 10:13:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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I recall as a kid walking the streets in Arizona armed to the teeth.

Out to get...varmints. Tin cans. A big snake, if we saw one...

shotguns, pistols, even (gasp) semi-automatic rifles.

You can see such horrifying behavior to this day...just head up to Redington Pass on a Saturday.

Shocking.

The police used to drive right by us.

But that was in America.


20 posted on 10/27/2013 10:28:03 PM PDT by Regulator
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Somehow we have gotten away from the idea that government officials, regardless of title, are PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. They work FOR US. WE PAY THEM and WE SHOULD BE their masters NOT the other way around.

Protected by a wall of unions, legislation, bureaucratic ukases and idiotic decisions by politically connected lawyers termed “judges”, they have become OUR masters.

This entire sad incident is just one symptom of a government gone WRONG.

We need a “time out”. We need to restructure our government
such that NO ONE can become a career office holder, law enforcement officers cease being a paramilitary army of occupation, and all public servants become totally answerable to the public they serve and which pays them - stripped of any union protection to shield them from the wishes of their employers - US.

I humbly suggest we begin by taking over our Boards of Education and DEMANDING and NOT ACCEPTING ANYTHING LESS THAN
1) NO MORE UNIONS for civil servants INCLUDING COPS
2) STRICT TERM LIMITS
3) APPLICATION OF ALL LEGISLATION TO THE LEGISLATORS WHO ENACT IT
4) CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARDS FOR COPS
5) CIVILIAN PRESENCE AND REVIEW OF ALL POLICE ACADEMY COURSES
6) STRICT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FORA LL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
7) TERM LIMITS FOR JUDGES
8) ELECTIONS FOR JUDGES
9) REFERENDUM AND RECALL

Government needs to be taught to fear the people, not the other way around.


26 posted on 10/28/2013 12:19:23 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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” Friends and family have described the
boy as a well-liked eighth-grader who
played the trumpet and basketball and
had a good sense of humor.”

I’m sure all his young friends now trust and have faith in LE. Good job officers.


31 posted on 10/28/2013 5:16:33 AM PDT by LevinFan
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Erick Gelhaus is the name of the officer who put 8 bullets into this boy.


41 posted on 10/28/2013 8:11:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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