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FDA wants restrictions on hydrocodone painkillers
FOX News ^ | October 25, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/26/2013 12:46:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Revolting cat!
That’s the same question that abortion supporters ask. What’s your answer to them? “That’s different!” ?

Uh, it IS different.

Liberty means being free to do whatever you want UNTIL it infringes upon someone else's rights. In the case of abortion, the "someone else" is the innocent baby who's done nothing to deserve summary execution.

101 posted on 10/26/2013 7:24:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: steve86

Loperamide has the same affinity for mu opioid receptors as opiates. It is just a happy accident that loperamide is almost immediately pumped out of the brain by a glycoprotein thus limiting the effects to those receptors outside the brain.


102 posted on 10/26/2013 7:29:31 PM PDT by Artem55
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To: Does so

Yes one does get a little used to the pains associated with growing older. At 71 I feel them in the morning and they remind me I am still alive. My father used to say All of the Ritis boys are bad ,but that Arther is a bitch.


103 posted on 10/26/2013 7:35:14 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


104 posted on 10/26/2013 7:43:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Controlled Substances Act, passed in 1970, put hydrocodone drugs in the Schedule III class, which is subject to fewer controls. Under that classification, a prescription for Vicodin can be refilled five times before the patient has to see a physician again. If the drug is reclassified to Schedule II, patients will only be able to receive one 90-day prescription, similar to drugs like OxyContin. The drug could also not be prescribed by nurses and physician assistants. I have been a P.A. for 33 years, have had a dea license for most of them. I renewed my license last year (700 bucks) and note on it that I can write schedule II drugs. Where are they getting their information ?


105 posted on 10/26/2013 8:03:57 PM PDT by contrarian
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I continually shudder at what they are gonna want to restrict next. Who knows how many cures for cancers, mental/personality disorders, physical handicaps and other such innovations are gathering dust in some warehouse because of these narcissists?


106 posted on 10/26/2013 8:06:38 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: Marie
That’s how it stops constipation. I think you misspoke. Loperamide is for stopping diarrhea........ Loperamide is an opioid-receptor agonist and acts on the μ-opioid receptors in the myenteric plexus of the large intestine; by itself it does not affect the central nervous system. It works similarly to morphine, by decreasing the activity of the myenteric plexus, which in turn decreases the tone of the longitudinal and circular smooth muscles of the intestinal wall.[5][6] This increases the amount of time substances stay in the intestine, allowing for more water to be absorbed out of the fecal matter. Loperamide also decreases colonic mass movements and suppresses the gastrocolic reflex.[
107 posted on 10/26/2013 8:13:31 PM PDT by contrarian
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To: contrarian

Sorry Marie, did not read down the thread soon enough to see the correction.


108 posted on 10/26/2013 8:15:01 PM PDT by contrarian
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To: Mastador1

yeah, no one gets addicted to 10-325 Vicodin.


109 posted on 10/26/2013 8:23:58 PM PDT by superfries
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To: Artem55

Are you saying Relistor will stop the pain and not constipate you? What about the itch associated with Vicodin? Does Relistor have the same itch effect? When you say double it, do you mean if I was on 10-325 Vicodin I need to be on 20-325? What is the appropriate Relistor prescription?


110 posted on 10/26/2013 8:31:59 PM PDT by superfries
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To: jsanders2001
Sheryl Crow says it only takes one sheet of toilet paper to wipe her a$$ so you may not be far off the mark.

I bet the kids all called het "Stinky".


111 posted on 10/26/2013 9:09:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

the highly addictive painkiller that has grown into the most widely prescribed drug in the U.S.


Really? For some reason I don’t believe the claim that hydrocodone is the most widely prescribed drug in the U.S.


112 posted on 10/26/2013 9:11:38 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Still Thinking

Uh, that’s not very original (see up the thread), and quite predictable. A knee jerk reaction. Now try to refute the same argument (’it is my own body’) by a user and seller of illegal drugs to other owners of their own bodies.


113 posted on 10/26/2013 9:13:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Venturer

I have taken Hydrocodone as prescribed and I don’t see where it does a helluva lot for pain.


My doctor prescribed Oxycotin for severe rib pain due to a very bad bout of pneumonia. I held off taking it until bedtime. All it did was gave me the jitters and made my face itch. Who the hell would want this crap?


114 posted on 10/26/2013 9:13:42 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: superfries
No. Relistor will affect the mu opioid receptors in the GI tract but will not cross the blood brain barrier, thus allowing pain relief with lowered risk of constipation.

Relistor is a modified form of naltrexone (methylnaltrexone to be exact)and it is a narcotic antagonist. Unlike other narcotic antagonists like Narcan, methylnaltrexone will not reverse central nervous effects of opiates such as analgesia and respiratory depression.

The itch you describe is usually associated with the opiate (hydrocodone) and not Relistor.

As far as the dosing is concerned, I think the commonly prescribed 8mg dose is insufficient---12mg is more like it.

There is no such dose of hydrocodone/apap as 20-325. Vicodin is now supplied in fixed combinations of 5/300, 7.5/300 and 10/300

Other analgesics like Norco and Anexsia come in similar combinations with slightly more acetaminophen (325mg vs 300mg)

115 posted on 10/26/2013 9:18:12 PM PDT by Artem55
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To: contrarian

Yup. I misspoke. Already busted. :)

Good info!


116 posted on 10/26/2013 9:31:59 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: contrarian

that’s cool! do it myself all the time. :)


117 posted on 10/26/2013 9:34:43 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Artem55

Do you mind if I ask what you do for a living? You’re very knowledgeable.


118 posted on 10/26/2013 9:36:30 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Seriously? You can’t tell the difference? The drug buyer is freely making a decision to do something harmful to himself (victimless “crime”). The fetus doesn’t get a vote about getting aborted. It has to do with all that antiquated life, liberty, etc., stuff.


119 posted on 10/26/2013 9:38:41 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Revolting cat!

The voters, citizens want/desire for ‘protection’ by their government is based on fallacy. You, me, the individual citizen has no legal right to any provided protection from government unless held in official custody. You probably are aware that to seek redress on the basis of ‘failure to protect’ from the Federal level down to state county levels is hard to impossible to achieve. Those in charge know this. They then persuade the sheep, I mean voters, to pass more laws, regulations ensuring that these will ‘protect’ them from fear, need, whatever. All those do is establish more central control with NO guarantee of protection/safety. As for Departments such as the FDA, Energy, and so on, of course they are not going away. I never said they were. I have maintained that the sheep must take control of their own destiny. Hobble to the best of our ability these Departments, Federal level on down. Because if the sheep don’t, if they sit around and say ‘That’s just the way it is, oh well’, they WILL be eaten. The citizen/sheep have to do it cuz they are not going to get any help from the ‘established’ political parties. Can we the citizens do it? I doubt it. Hell, like I stated before, we so-called ‘free people’ allow others to dictate what we can/can’t do to our own bodies.(Fetuses included as ‘others’ are dictating their future....)


120 posted on 10/26/2013 9:39:47 PM PDT by yadent
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