Posted on 10/24/2013 11:07:52 AM PDT by neverdem
LINCOLN, Nebraska — A federal judge in Nebraska has ordered the state to stop enforcing a law that prevents legal, non-citizens from getting a permit to carry a concealed handgun...
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What if a legal resident alien can't pass the written test for citizenship because of a learning disorder, e.g. dyslexia?
What??? They have no rights so do not qualify.
Really?
Resident aliens - i.e., holders of green cards - can legally possess firearms in the US. They should be able to get carry permits.
Not illegals: legal aliens (non-citizens who have a "Green Card," which entitles them to legal permanent residency in the U.S.).
Gun ownership would certainly be a right they do have. This judgement is not about illegal aliens.
Don’t illegals have the lawful right to defend themselves?
Permanent residents are allowed to purchase firearms. I have no problem allowing them to also carry firearms.
14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States (emphasis added); nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Insights welcome.
I fail to see how granting a right to a legal resident alien abridges the rights of any full citizen.
Send them back to ocixeM
Resident aliens - i.e., holders of green cards - can legally possess firearms in the US. They should be able to get carry permits.
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Absolutely they should. This was a good decision by a good judge by a stand-up plaintiff who’s a firm supporter of the 2nd amendment. And the plaintiff is a LEGAL non-citizen resident of the US.
“Don’t illegals have the lawful right to defend themselves?”
No.
We're not talking about states abridging the rights of citizens. The way that I read Section 1 of 14A is that non-citizens aren't necessarily guaranteed the constitutional priviliges and immunities enjoyed by citizens. In other words, the states arguably have the power to discriminate against non-citizens on the basis of constitutional criteria which protects citizens.
Also, the judge arguably made it easier for non-citizen terrorists to be terrorists.
These are resident aliens...i.e. those with a green card. Of course they should be able to carry a firearm openly, concealed, or duct-taped to their forehead should they wish to.
At the risk of FR heresy, I’ll also add that anyone who happens to live here should have the right to carry. INCLUDING illegal aliens and convicted felons who are no longer incarcerated. Once you start down that slippery slope of defining which classes and subclasses should and should not be able to carry, you end up with abominations like anyone who has a domestic protection order against them is suddenly not allowed to possess a firearm.
Self defense is either a basic human right or it isn’t.
This is actually pretty tricky, because it involves several things. Not just US citizenship, but citizenship in that state, that is, a legal resident.
Many states prohibit tourists from being licensed to carry a gun in that state. Many states have stiff requirements before non legal residents can get in-state tuition to schools.
While I’m not disagreeing with this judge’s opinion, he really opened a can of worms. He should have created a very detailed opinion outlining the rules.
With your screen name I would think you would recognize that a state has the ability to do this independent of what the Federal government and other states do.
Also, the judge arguably made it easier for non-citizen terrorists to be terrorists.
The judge unquestionably made it easier for non-citizen legal residents to defend themselves and others from terrorists.
The right of self defense is absolute.
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