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So now the Democrats want a delay but two weeks ago that just was a travesty? I agree with Chris. Let the Democrats own their Obamacare mess. Delaying it is stupid. It only made sense as a point of negotiation which the President rejected. The only way I'd ever go along with a delay is if it meant removing the mandate altogether and protections for conscience and religious liberty for employers and employees. Free people should never be forced into a program like Obamacare. If it is so good then they would be excited to join. Obamacare is about two things of course, POWER & CONTROL. You don't need a massive bureaucracy to help a few million poor people get health insurance. You don't have to mess with employers and involve the damn IRS to help poor people get healthcare! Obamacare was from conception a horrible mess based on wrong headed thinking that in order to help solve an isolated problem we have to redesign and add even more bureaucracy to everyone's healthcare. Obamacare is healthcare on stupid.
1 posted on 10/23/2013 11:58:29 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Respect Rubio?

Read no further. Goodbye.


2 posted on 10/24/2013 12:01:35 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: Maelstorm

I tend to agree with him - we must oppose anything that’s going to make this abomination more palatable. Let the people that voted for it feel the maximum pain, then we may have a chance to take over the senate.

So I’m against Rubio’s idea. (I’ve come to the conclusion he’s not very smart)


3 posted on 10/24/2013 12:07:02 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Maelstorm

I was floored when the “stupid party” offered to delay Mengelecare for the rats. Delay it? And give the rats a chance to spin the story, and maybe get past the 2014s unscathed by their own obscene nightmare?? I was even more flabberghasted the rats didn’t eat the GOP offer up as fast as they could.

I’m sure they now wish they had. The question is, why are there still some Republicans who want to throw the rats a lifeline by delaying Mengelecare? It would be nice to see them finally do something smart and just let Ubama and the rats twist in the wind. Give them a delay and this is how they will thank the GOP: “The Republicans’ government shutdown screwed up the launch of Mengelecare, and so we now have no alternative but to protect Americans from Republican irresponsibility.”


4 posted on 10/24/2013 12:08:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Maelstorm
What a stupid strategy.

We're supposed to let obamacare take effect, damage our country, and then cross our fingers that the same idiots who put this clown in office, TWICE, will suddenly see the light, vote republican, we can repeal obamacare and live happily ever after.

Do any of you actually think the media will let Obama own this failure? Obamacare's failure, and everything else bad that happens between now and election time will be the fault of the tea party and the republicans. the media will make sure of it and the low information masses will lap it up.

everything is going to be our fault anyway, we should fight this thing (obamacare) tooth and nail, every step of the way. Do the right thing by trying to head off its damage to our country, not try some zen, kung fu political strategy to try and score points.

This "strategy" is being pushed by the wusses in congress who are too afraid to stand up and fight this thing because the media might talk bad about them.

Get a clue, morons, the media will talk bad about you regardless.

5 posted on 10/24/2013 12:36:05 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Maelstorm

Isn’t Marcus Rineo a democrat?


6 posted on 10/24/2013 12:50:50 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Maelstorm
What is Ruddy talking about?

Since Cruz returned home to eight-minute standing ovations, the only voices I've heard calling for a delay now are coming from frightened Democrats.

Oh, the schadenfreude.

7 posted on 10/24/2013 1:12:58 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Maelstorm

My kids and I have discussed this all along. Why delay it? So it can slowly gather control before elections?

Delay nothing. A lot of folks voted for Obama in 2012 because they thought this was a great law - he INTENTIONALLY made sure this horrid rollout didn’t happen until after the election. Now people want to delay it - “see, it’s not so bad!”.

I say delay nothing. People need to see this vicious law in all it’s great, shining glory.


8 posted on 10/24/2013 2:39:55 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Maelstorm

This is like saying: go intentionally break your leg so we can show how terrible the doctor is who will set it and cast it. Then maybe we can get him fired.

Nothanks.

Not a fan of allowing the federal government to expand exponentially, even if it could maybe possibly hopefully be only temporary.


10 posted on 10/24/2013 3:11:26 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Maelstorm

What many people are ignoring is the fact that a great part of FUBOcare’s damage has already occurred.


11 posted on 10/24/2013 3:30:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Maelstorm

16 posted on 10/24/2013 4:11:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Maelstorm

I completely agree with Mr. Ruddy. If Ocare is a bad idea, which it is, then it’s a bad idea NOW OR in the future. Delay the mandate? It’s unenforceable anyway. Just get rid of the whole ball of wax and start over.


17 posted on 10/24/2013 4:15:32 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Maelstorm

Delaying the law only turns the less informed into frogs - not recognizing that the water temperature is increasing to the boiling point. I say enforce it in spades. No exemptions, no delays, full enforcement of all penalties. Anything less means we have a king that can decide which parts of the law will be enforced and which will be ignored. [Yes, I know what we have. Save your typing fingers.]


18 posted on 10/24/2013 4:25:36 AM PDT by Pecos (Kritarchy: government by the judges)
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To: The Toad

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19 posted on 10/24/2013 4:28:52 AM PDT by The Toad
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To: Maelstorm

Don’t delay Obamacare, let the illiterate Obama voters wallow in the $h^t they created.


21 posted on 10/24/2013 4:49:03 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Maelstorm

Ted Cruz has an opportunity. When the ‘Rats in the Senate introduce the Jeanne Shaheen bill for a year’s delay, Cruz needs to filibuster this, and the GOP needs to back him with at least 41 votes. Cruz needs to reassert his position that Obamacare must be repealed; and hold out for nothing less.

The GOP has got their chance; please let them take it.


22 posted on 10/24/2013 5:27:53 AM PDT by nd76
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To: Maelstorm
Right. . .I'm gonna listen to the Rubio


23 posted on 10/24/2013 6:20:00 AM PDT by McBuff
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