Posted on 10/23/2013 12:46:38 PM PDT by fishtank
Image from ICR article.
Even in the far north and far south, which because of the latitude get little heat from the sun, ice melts in the summer.
That would suggest that the equatorial regions could get enough heat to melt ice even if the sun had lower outputs.
And a reducing atmosphere (carbon dioxide, methane) would have significant greenhouse effect.
If it was created by a pair of docs, how many will be required to figure this out?
It was something that was instrumental in my development of being a global warming skeptic.
If we discard the old-Earth theory, then, we can simply discard ALL scientific data, because it ALL contradicts us! Yay!
The faint-sun theory means we don’t know everything. That is all. By the way, just as I believe that just God created Adam to appear as if he had aged in many ways (he was a man, not a zygote), I have no problem believing that God created a universe that looked extremely aged in many ways. This anti-scientific crap keeps an emnity between science and religion which is badly damaging to both.
“But if these scientists considered that Earth is only thousands of years oldas clearly stated in the Bible”
The bible does not state the age of the earth. Also one does not have to believe in evolution to believe the earth is older than a few thousand years. The truth is no one knows how old the eath is.
Citation please and, if you will, don't cite Jason Lisle please, he's the director of ICR.
First of all, there is a complete lack of understanding about Archea shown in this article. If Archea could turn the Marianas Trench into a well lit Disneyland where no sunlight can reach whatsoever, then the early earth had its own source of light and the spectrum was utterly differrent. Archea can live anywhere, everywhere, all the time, and they are creators.
All speculation. No one can know what happened so long ago, with any high degree of accuracy. Here’s my speculation:
Long ago, the Moon’s orbit was much closer to Earth. The gravitational tugs between the two bodies kept both hot. Over time, the Moon and Earth moved farther apart and slowed their rotations. There is much evidence that the Moon’s orbit is moving that body farther away from the Earth. Here’s the wonderful part. God put intelligent life on Earth just when the Moon can perfectly eclipse the Sun. Perfect balance; we take the Moon for granted but it does so much to help life exist on Earth.
“This anti-scientific crap keeps an emnity between science and religion which is badly damaging to both....”
what is anti scientific about the article?
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=10798
Life evolved on Earth during the Archean, between 3.8 and 2.4 billion years ago, but the weak Sun should have meant the planet was too cold for life to take hold at this time; scientists have therefore been trying to find an explanation for this conundrum, what is dubbed the faint, young Sun paradox.
During the Archean the solar energy received at the surface of the Earth was about 20 to 25 % lower than present, said study author, Dr Ray Burgess,
We measured the amount and isotopic abundances of nitrogen and argon in the ancient air, said Professor Marty. Argon is a noble gas which, being chemically inert, is an ideal element to monitor atmospheric change. Using the nitrogen and argon measurements we were able to reconstruct the amount and isotope composition of the nitrogen dissolved in the water and, from that, the atmosphere that was once in equilibrium with the water.
The researchers found that the partial pressure of nitrogen in the Archean atmosphere was similar, possibly even slightly lower, than it is at present, ruling out nitrogen as one of the main contenders for solving the early climate puzzle.
Dr Burgess added: The amount of nitrogen in the atmosphere was too low to enhance the greenhouse effect of carbon dioxide sufficiently to warm the planet. However, our results did give a higher than expected pressure reading for carbon dioxide at odds with the estimates based on fossil soils which could be high enough to counteract the effects of the faint young Sun and will require further investigation.
"Creation scientists do not wrestle with this paradox, because the sun, planets, and Earth are all young and were created whole. Solar radiation on Day Four of the creation week, near the beginning of time itself, was not much different from today and perfectly suited for lifean explanation that frees scientists from this unnecessary conundrum."
By citation i mean give me a link to a peer-reviewed journal where the estimate of solar strength is published. Thanks
I missed the link in your earlier response. Thanks
orbit was much closer to Earth..”
yes, but measured and using uniformitarianism and billion years , the moon would be too close to earth, disrupting any chance of life.
Okay, read the last sentence in the quote from Dr. Burgess. Problem solved.
Dr Burgess added: However, our results did give a higher than expected pressure reading for carbon dioxide at odds with the estimates based on fossil soils which could be high enough to counteract the effects of the faint young Sun and will require further investigation
Does “Evolution” or “Darwinism” as a theory “qualify” within the scientific constraints long defined by the scientific community ?
Is it, “Falsifiable” ?
Is it “Observable” ?
Is it “Repeatable” ?
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