How You and Your Family Can Escape Obamacare

PJ Media ^ | 10-22-13 | Bryan Preston

[Mamzelle]

Well--I'm not saying I don't like your idea. But I know hospitals and I respect them, like a highly functioning machine. I keep returning to the Space Shuttle--because I'm trying to make the point that I am always failing to make. Once the Space Shuttle is decommissioned, even the Google Boys and George Soros do not get to ride on them!!

You do not comprehend the wonderfulness of American hospitals...the massive machinery, the technicians, the maintainers and even the administrators. This is all in additions to the physicians, nurses, ancillary medial personnel. It's a marvelous thing--the hospitals of America.

We're about to lose them.

[CygnusXI]

Exactly! Why anyone is trying to find (or believe) these loopholes or the (barf) law as written is beyond me. So much is at the discretion of the implementors, in addition to lawlessness in the gov and the govs lightning speed to close said loopholes, it is futile.

Best to just stand on principle and be free no matter what "they" decide we should pay for the privlidge of breathing.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Okay, but you STILL miss the point. The point is not that it’s time to find a new church, the point is this requirement of the plan brings into play an unnecessary component...a component that adds nothing to the plan but risk.

The point of this post is the working of the care plan, not the working of a church or a particular pastor. Try to follow the main gist here.....

[Navy Patriot]

The Mennonites and Amish have a great system.

Yes they do, it is voluntary.

[funfan]

I don’t think a new one would count for an Obamacare exception. I think they have to have been in existence since 1999 or something like that. I thought I had read that.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”what happens if you end up in the hospital? or need chemo?”

Then you get on the website or call in and sign up for the plan that gives you the best treatments, maybe the one congress is getting. The most expensive one,

They cant turn you down legally, you know those pre-existing conditions. Just like those people standing behind Obama on TV in Rose Garden Monday.

They young healthy Obama voters get to pay for it.Then you go on medicare and they pay again. Aint Utopia fair?

[wmfights]

I don’t know what application process you are talking about.

I was just commenting on the process I am going through.

If you want to claim your Mennonite, Indian, or whatever I doubt anyone is going to check. However, if you want health coverage Christian Healthcare Co-ops are always an option.

[C. Edmund Wright]

I fully comprehend all that....I’ve a million published words plus on Obama Care and health care - and hundreds of interviews on the subject. What you are not aware of is how many doctors and others are WAAAY ahead of you on this, and provisions have been made that you are not aware of.

There are hospitals, with state of the art doctors and procedures and equipment in many states already set up - taking only what we would call concierge type patients. Gone are the massive wings for fund raising and insruance and government paperwork and for indigent care.....just flat out state of the art surgical centers. They have taken the space shuttles and made them smaller, leaner, more efficient but just as magnificent, or moreso, with regards to care.

And your point that the concierge model would not work for hospital care is just not the case. This industry is already well under way.....and it sounds like you are not aware of it.

[wmfights]

I'm saying the rich better worry when hospitals start going out of business. That means when they're galavanting' all over the place they'd better make sure that they have their heart attack near a functional, high-quality hospital. It won't matter if they're driving a lambourghini if their stroke comes on miles from a rich man's hospital.

Outside of something that is immediate I believe more people will pursue medical tourism.

[C. Edmund Wright]

f you want to claim your Mennonite, Indian, or whatever I doubt anyone is going to check.

Maybe, maybe not...but there's another point that poster did not consider: who pays for the care when it's needed? The Mennonites and the Amish pay for real Mennonites and real Amish....they aren't going to pay for a pretender. Sometimes people get all caught up in "coverage" and "insurance" and forget that the real issue here is CARE - and how to pay for it. I submit our poster friend here is one such person.

[sickoflibs]

LOL, :)

[Mamzelle]

Of course, the best and most perfect hospitals are in Tel Aviv.

[rfreedom4u]

It’s one of my benefits after giving 24 years of my life to Uncle Sam. TRICARE.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Well, yes, you may be right, as the law stands now, I am predicting that new groups will spring up, one way or the other - 3.1 miles offshore on a barge...in the Bahamas....or in states with coureageous governors.

[Mamzelle]

Outside of something immediate...have you stopped by your nearest ER lately?

[Navy Patriot]

Yep, the law is what the Emperor says it is, today.

Ask George Zimmerman, he used to have a bank account.

[C. Edmund Wright]

So we;re paying for you then.......

[wmfights]

We’ve had medi-share for a year now.

Do you like it?

We just applied. The gentleman I talked with was very helpful and was pretty good answering our questions. I love the idea that my payments will go to help a Brother or Sister in Christ.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Not sure what that has to do with concierge medicine in the US.....

[sickoflibs]

They would have lots of trouble in court if they violate this. So you can sign up for the BEST policy as soon as you need it, just like pregnant wimmin get their maternatity costs paid by wimmin in their 60s and males.

‘(2) SPECIAL RULES- Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES- In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.

‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES- The Secretary shall not—
‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’.

What the Obama-care law text REALLY says on IRS enforcement of the personal Mandate fine/tax