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How You and Your Family Can Escape Obamacare
PJ Media ^ | 10-22-13 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 10/22/2013 7:59:06 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

The Affordable Care Act runs more than 2,600 pages and now hundreds of thousands of regulations. No one knows every single provision that is in the law, which Congress did not even bother to read before passing it. Among its most controversial provisions is the mandate forcing Americans to purchase health insurance or face fines from the IRS. Those fines can even take the form of wage garnishment. Americans who fail to comply and pay the fine can end up in jail.

There is, though, a provision buried in Obamacare that provides a way out of having to comply with the individual mandate. Pages 107 and 128 of Obamacare stipulate that members of “healthcare sharing ministries” are exempt from the individual mandate.

Healthcare sharing ministries are non-profit entities created to allow Christians to pay into a fund and then tap that fund when they need to pay medical expenses. So there’s one catch — you have to be meet the healthcare sharing group’s membership requirements to join, and as ministries they maintain that you must be a Christian regularly attending church before you can become a member.

Healthcare sharing ministries can approve and decline claims, and rates can increase or decrease over the life of a policy. Some do not require physical exams before joining and do not turn down people with pre-existing conditions.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bryanpreston; christianhealthcare; escape; family; healthcareministries; healthcareministry; obamacare
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To: diamond6
But what about the upcoming doctor shortage?

I think that will be felt more inside the govt nightmare. Doctors able to have a practice that doesn't require govt approval will probably be pretty happy doing what they love.

121 posted on 10/22/2013 9:48:22 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: diamond6
So after December then what?

My understanding is this time it runs till March 15th, but after that it will only be from Oct-Dec.

122 posted on 10/22/2013 9:51:03 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You got that right,,


123 posted on 10/22/2013 9:51:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Patriot Babe
How about Catastrophic Insurance? For the hardcore medical needs

That's why I applied for a Christian Healthcare Co-op with a $10,000 annual family contribution. If something big happens then it will be submitted for sharing.

124 posted on 10/22/2013 9:53:41 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Patriot Babe

“What about those who are Christians but do not attend church?”

King Obama has decided that you must satisfy certain hurdles _within_ a religion to be considered a legitimate member of that religion.

But remember, Obama has also ruled that his law respecting the establishment of officially recognized religions, does not mean it is a law respecting an establishment of religion, or the free exercise thereof. It’s complicated,,

Obama is the constitution, Obama is the supreme court, Obama is everything we need./


125 posted on 10/22/2013 9:58:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: JLS
A long long time ago I publicly proclaimed my Amishness on FR... that should suffice. Sure, maybe I use electronics and internal combustion technology. Sure, maybe, I drop a lot of F-Bombs and sometimes take the Lord's name in vain. Sure, maybe I smoke like a choo choo train. Sure, maybe I sometimes look upon women working at the strip club with lustful eyes... but some long-legged mack daddy halfrican communist is in no position to deny my Amishness.
126 posted on 10/22/2013 10:02:29 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I feel obligated to avoid supporting an Obamacare plan.
Abortion, socialism, etc..

So I’ve pretty much decided to jump on to Samaritan ministries (one of the 3 plans listed here).

Did a fair amount of research already.


127 posted on 10/22/2013 10:04:47 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I assume that there are lawsuits re: 14th Amend. Equal Protection Under The Law.


128 posted on 10/22/2013 11:00:34 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: KGeorge

The “way we’ve always done things” is one of the absolute worst reasons to keep doing anything....


129 posted on 10/23/2013 3:34:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: wmfights
With the savings from being in the co-op. I pay a Concierge Doctor $3,600.00 a year for my wife and I. We have access to the doctor 24 hrs a day (his cell phone) a visit can be set up for same day, or next day. All my labs are done by his office. If either of my grown sons get sick they can see him at no charge, just as any family can if they are in town on a visit. The doctor has a limited number of patients and does not take insurance. If something major happens he can refer us to specialists.

This is precisely the kind of model that will emerge. Maybe on a small scale for those smart enough to figure a way out...or maybe on a larger scale if Obama Care crashes as the most intelligent way to handle these things...

130 posted on 10/23/2013 3:38:01 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: wmfights
The same thing occurred to me, but looking at it from their perspective they need some kind of established practice to make a determination.

Well do they? I mean, if this is a shared ministry....do they? Or is it insurance with some underwriting guidelines? And how do we establish those guidelines? Should they recondsider them? It's obviously a hybrid....

131 posted on 10/23/2013 3:42:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Rodamala

Afterall, no one thinks that you Amish are perfect in your religious observance, just like anyone else.


132 posted on 10/23/2013 6:47:23 AM PDT by JLS
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To: wmfights

We do like having Medi-share instead of the traditional insurance. I could have obtained regular insurance but the prices have jumped so much the past few years I wanted to try something else. If you’re all healthy to start with there isn’t any problem joining. If you have pre-existing conditions you may still be able to join but you will be assigned a health coach to get you back on the right track. It is the total opposite approach of going to the doctor all the time and getting a pill to fix whatever ails you. Being on Medi-share makes you very aware of the costs.

The best part is being exempt from Zero-care as I call it.


133 posted on 10/23/2013 6:59:17 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: tumblindice

I think the Amish have an exemption from Obamacare.


134 posted on 10/23/2013 7:02:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: wmfights

Lets hope they stay in business.


135 posted on 10/23/2013 7:23:47 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: JLS

Do you speak German? Are you a member of the Church? Where is your wife, your beard, your children and do you know how to handle a buggy? Plus, who are your parents and are you an accepted part of the community? Nope. Then you can’t be Amish.


136 posted on 10/23/2013 8:30:56 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s not the ‘reason’ we continue. It is what we chose to do, early on. It has worked out very well for us & never created a conflict, so why “fix” it. (statement, not a question)


137 posted on 10/23/2013 2:42:37 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: KGeorge

Except, now, it, a fabrictation with no basis in reality, is keeping you from perhaps, and I stress perhaps, escaping Obama Care. It’s certainly causing you to limit your options unnecessarily.....probably limits a lot in your life that you don’t even realize.


138 posted on 10/23/2013 2:59:13 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: cableguymn

It also doesn’t say anything about not being able to apply a financial penalty, ie confiscatory compounding interest penalty. If you don’t pay the interest penalty then they will use that as a way to get around the law since it is a secondary issue.


139 posted on 10/23/2013 8:29:41 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Oh for Pete’s sake. C. Edmund, I did not say that we would not be joining a Health Sharing Ministry. I said that I wished that the Catholic Church had one.

It’s very disagreeable to me to be pushed by anyone. How we choose to conduct our life is none of your business.

Kindly stop trolling me.


140 posted on 10/23/2013 11:07:22 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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