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The Poor Get Caught in Tobacco's Grip as They Stuggle With Hunger
The Lakeland Ledger via The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Saturday, October 19, 2013 | ALFRED LUBRANO

Posted on 10/20/2013 5:43:53 AM PDT by Sam's Army

Many people smoke after they've eaten. Lindell Harvey smokes because he hasn't.

"You smoke out of anxiety because you don't have the food you need," said Harvey, 54, who lives alone in Crum Lynne, Pa. He receives disability checks from the Navy that keep him $2,000 below the poverty line.

Harvey relies on his Newports to see him through his hard days. "In my mind, the smoking becomes a comfort as I try to create ways to get food."

(Excerpt) Read more at theledger.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: crumlynne; democrattaxcode; excisetax; excisetaxes; lindellharvey; pennsylvania; secondhandsmoke; tobacco; welfaresmokes
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To: moovova

That isn’t what happened, at least in California, the businesses fought those laws.


161 posted on 10/20/2013 3:04:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: caww

Take out business did pick up in places that were predominantly eat in, and so that really hurt the wait staff. And in home catering picked up big time - at first. It fell off right after the holidays.

Granted I’m only speaking of where I lived at the time (2002, Dover DE) but the ban went into effect the night before Thanksgiving. Private parties in local restaurants were cancelled left and right-— some of which had been booked BEFORE the ban was even voted on. Places like the Elks, Moose, and VFW all got more private business party reservations than they could handle - because restaurants were no longer able to accommodate the clients that had booked the place to begin with.


162 posted on 10/20/2013 3:23:33 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: goodwithagun

I saw a guys big backyard tobacco plant in cool and foggy San Francisco. Tobacco grows in many places. It’s just that the prime growing areas are certain states.Tobacco plants are beautiful (I don’t smoke)


163 posted on 10/20/2013 3:28:41 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ansel12
That isn’t what happened, at least in California, the businesses fought those laws.

The local (read small) businesses have fought these laws in every state, but are out spent by the anti-smokers who are funded by the pharmaceutical industry and the chain restaurants who have take over all of the "local" restaurant associations.

164 posted on 10/20/2013 3:58:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: moovova

I am still waiting for you to support your lie n00bie.

None of the banter changes the fact that you lied.


165 posted on 10/20/2013 4:06:34 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

And I’m still waiting for you too prove I lied.

You can’t.


166 posted on 10/20/2013 4:24:39 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Venturer; driftless2

Smell is an entirely subjective thing. Laws should NEVER be made based upon someone’s opinion.


167 posted on 10/20/2013 4:58:27 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: moovova

You might have forgotten but I haven’t.

I call you on your BS and you cannot prove what you posted so you were wrong or you lied. Then you followed up with a childish potty mouth that got your post pulled.

Simple enough even you should be able to understand.

Post proof or admit you were either wrong or you are a liar.

Your choice but everyone reading this thread know that you failed.


168 posted on 10/20/2013 4:59:52 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: caww

That is correct...which is why I avoid places where people smoke as much as humanly possible. But what choice did I have as a child? Or when I entered the workplace and smokers were allowed to smoke at their desks? None.


169 posted on 10/20/2013 5:32:59 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Eaker

You say I’m wrong? You call me a liar? But you don’t offer proof to back up your accusations?

I’d say that makes you the liar, or delusional.

Good night FRiend...


170 posted on 10/20/2013 5:38:08 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

You made the comment which you can’t back up with facts.

You failed.


171 posted on 10/20/2013 5:57:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: driftless2

We all have to tolerate others habits and behavior in the workplace. Some have to listen to the vilest vocabulary, others have to work with those who have poor personal health habits, drugs etc.... not to mention just plain mean and nasty people and or supervisors...... But if you cannot handle then you ‘still have the choice’ to change your job.

As for what your parents did...it was indeed their home to do as they pleased as with all parents....smoking isn’t the only bad influence on a child or what happens to children. But either or it’s never the childrens choice.

I just have a serious issue when people corner smoking when there are so many other issues equally as disturbing and as unsettling, in fact moreso.

Human nature does not change...there will always be “issues” with people wherever you are or go.


172 posted on 10/20/2013 7:32:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: Gabz
I have family members in manager positions within the Hospitality business...they certainly saw a drop off in business at holiday....and this was in a four star hotel with a restaurant. The Hotel industry also fought this ban. They knew it would impact their business.

I will disagree fully with those who think smoking is simply for low lifers.....I know woman who are "closet" smokers because it's no longer considered socially acceptable. So they hide their habit as much as possible.

173 posted on 10/20/2013 7:39:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Smoking’s bad for you. Why not drink tea and sniff flowers, it would be just as pleasant and it would wear less on your health.


174 posted on 10/20/2013 7:42:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: caww

“There’s bad things in the world therefore we won’t care about trying to do better things” is not exactly the most air tight logic.

I am not kidding or joking... drink tea, sniff flowers.


175 posted on 10/20/2013 7:44:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Some actually enjoy smoking so you can’t say that’s any different then someone who cannot understand how people can guzzle beer or alcohol...or takes drugs...or overeats....it’s all ‘appetite’ of one form or another.....overindulging is harmful in all these areas.


176 posted on 10/20/2013 7:48:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I can’t categorically damn it across the board. The noted C. S. Lewis smoked for pleasure. My dad had the self control to smoke one cigarette a week, at his customary poker party. (That’s also the only time he’d have beer.) But it’s one of those things that can easily walk away with a life if not closely watched. American Indians smoked tobacco in their religious ceremonies and that kept it in a controlled context. When we Westerners smoke, we usually just smoke to smoke.


177 posted on 10/20/2013 7:51:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: caww

I.e. doing things as a ritual actually helps. If you can smoke unto the Lord, do it. But that also means you won’t be smoking a lot.


178 posted on 10/20/2013 7:53:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Nice.


179 posted on 10/20/2013 7:58:12 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: caww
Tobacco Is An Indian Weed
180 posted on 10/20/2013 7:59:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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