[jjsheridan5]

the ONLY way to defeat these elitist on the left is to convince the average common Joe and the illegals and even the takers in the inner city that the "system" is against them and crushing them, and won't let them up....

Realistically, it is quite possible that we have passed the event horizon, and cannot defeat the left, at least not in the next couple of decades. They control too many institutions (including much of the Republican party), there are too many dependents, and governmental expansion tends to take on a life of its own, and has proven very difficult to even slow, let alone reverse.

Having said that, only good can come from having a unified, cohesive opposition party (even though it will be smaller than our current disunited, completely ineffective, Republican party). If everything crashes, which it might, people will remember who opposed it (assuming we rid our party of McCains and McConnells). If it doesn't crash, and just causes a slow strangulation of the middle class, then we can at least effectively oppose the more odious aspects of the left. And, if we can put forth a cohesive message of true opposition, maybe we can draw enough people in to be a valid national party again.

I am not looking for a single populist. I am looking for a party that stands with conviction, with a well-honed, cohesive message that draws from history, common sense, and an understanding of what has made this country uniquely successful and good.

That wouldn't be a guarantee of success. But failing to do so would be a guarantee of failure.

[comebacknewt]

Agree with everything you say, jjsheridan5.

The battle is lost for now, but the war continues. A truly united, much smaller, opposition party is strongly preferred to the surrender monkeys we have sitting in DC right now.

It will indeed take a few decades, and many of us may not be around to realize the fruits of our labors, but it is a fight worth having.

[98ZJ USMC]

Realistically, it is quite possible that we have passed the event horizon, and cannot defeat the left, at least not in the next couple of decades. They control too many institutions (including much of the Republican party), there are too many dependents, and governmental expansion tends to take on a life of its own, and has proven very difficult to even slow, let alone reverse.

Sad to say, I have come to the same conclusion. It will be the crushing and inevitable inertia of the welfare state that defeats them. The problem of course is, will it be reversible before the collapse. We have been subsidizing Eurosocialism for decades. There will be no one to subsidize us.

To the skeptical, I say: "Why is the IMF so concerned about whether we raise our debt ceiling?"

That's why. Continued subsidies.