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To: SunkenCiv

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
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I’m REALLY tired of hearing that old line of “11-12 million illegals”!! That was the figure being used back in 2006-07 when Bush tried his amnesty push.

The REAL number of illegals is more like 20-30 million, because Obama stopped securing the border and stopped deporting illegals who either entered illegally or overstayed their Visas. That group includes an Aunt and an Uncle of Obama’s who both have lived here for years.


51 posted on 10/17/2013 2:06:51 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Obama stopped securing the border and stopped deporting illegals who either entered illegally or overstayed their Visas.
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And there is the crux of it.

No matter what Congress does, the illegals are here, will not be deported, will incrementally gain benefits and at first, local rights to vote, practice law, even be given Federal & State jobs.

Amnesty by EO, amnesty by stealth, de facto amnesty....call it what you will. It is here to stay and it will just increase. They are going through the charade of votes in order to demonize those who aren’t playing along and reward those who are. That part is just pure politics.

Meanwhile, every year, more anchor babies reach 18, can just blend into the areas in America that are already majority Mexican until the control is secured. They may come from Indio and Mestizo stock, but the 2nd and 3rd generations are Americans. Many are educated, intermarried, live middle class lives, move anywhere they wish and don’t even speak Spanish very well. That is the assimilation. It is a long game. All we can delay is the recognition of the reality.

Eventually it ends up as the NAU and includes anyone who wishes to live here, regardless of where they originate, just as all Europeans can immigrate to any other EU country. Not sure where the American Brussels will be located or how much in-fighting will take place between the Mexican, Canadian and US elites, but it really doesn’t matter. Those actions are far above our pay grades as serfs.

Once there are established monetary unions and common markets in North America and Asia, just as in Europe, the next step is one world government. Nation states are relics and this is what is being taught to the current generation, everywhere.

Without rule of Law, just by rule of force. It is simply a matter of time.


52 posted on 10/17/2013 5:19:21 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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