[SoConPubbie]

Defunding was never an option. Heritage even said so. The real way to do this is by winning elections.

And how are you going to do that Karl Rove, if you don't stand up and fight against those things that are wrong?

The GOP will not win the majority of elections necessary to keep control of the House or take over the Senate or win the Presidency unless they keep to the conservative message and are vocal in their fight against everything that attacks our freedoms, liberties, and constitutional governance.

The current GOP-E leadership don't care about these things, but only care about keeping their head down, and keeping their positions/seats.

They've already proven they really did not want to defund Obamacare, they are actively, or secretly, plotting to pass Amnesty, they've caved on the Gay Agenda.

They no long represent us and cannot be trusted to fight for us.

[justice14]

Public hates Obamacare. They do. That needs to be capitalized on by the GOP. Hitting that hard will win us the 2014 and 16 elections. Then we have the inner party debate/fight on how to proceed. We need numbers now. Not to divide and kill the party.