Senator: Deal to avoid default and open government

AP ^ | 10/16/13 | Alan Fram

[TangledUpInBlue]

Senate leaders reached agreement Wednesday to avert a threatened Treasury default and reopen the government after a partial, 16-day shutdown, according to a Republican senator who also said the House might vote first on the plan to speed its approval.

The New York Stock Exchange soared on the news that the threat of default was easing in, rising nearly 200 points by late morning.

"I understand they've come to an agreement but I'm going to let the leader announce that," Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H........

[sand88]

What a weak pathetic man. He deserves our utter contempt.

I would be banned if I wrote what truly should happen to he and all traitors in Congress. They are truly destroying our Republic right before our eyes.

Boehner will shortly ram amnesty down our throats.

[NormsRevenge]

Stooge City

Spot the stooges.

[Cyber Liberty]

Want to bet?

Not a chance. I only bet on sure things, and the future of the Tea Party is in the air. Of course Boehner is safe in his seat, I never questioned that. I think he has a good chance of being thrown out of the Speakership, but I'd never make book on it.

[jjsheridan5]

When some people on this board believe that we’d be better off with Nancy Pelosi as speaker . There’s really nothing left to debate. I’m not going to question your patriotism just your sanity.

If you think we can ever be an effective opposition party with people like Boehner, McCain, McConnell, etc. occupying important positions, I would question yours. I am not saying that Pelosi as speaker would be a good thing. It would be awful. The difference is that valid, meaningful, and successful opposition would at least be possible in that scenario. Now, it is not.

[thouworm]

100% agreement!

[novemberslady]

I have come to the similar conclusion that we might actually be better off with Pelosi as speaker (with the one, huge, caveat that this would only be true if the establishment Republicans were defeated, either in the primaries or the general).

Once upon a time a people called Republicans held great power.
From battles fought by Patriots they gained possession of the White House, The Senate, and The House.
Republicans had fooled the Patriots into believing that they would stand for, and protect their rights.

Today the Republicans no longer have The White House, or the Senate, and are working very hard at spitting in the face of the Patriots that fought the battles to give them control of the House.

Soon they will be prehistoric...an archeological discovery on a dig.

All hail nancy?

[sand88]

He doesn’t have the votes to pass amnesty right now I don’t think. It is just a shell game.

Huh? Are you serious? Just watch, within weeks Boehner will ram fill amnesty down our throats.

Beohner and the rest of the GOPe have true hatred of Conservatives.

Boehner believes that granting amnesty will garner votes from grateful illegals -- he is dead wrong.

Boehner is purposely destroying our Republic -- he is no less evil than Obama and other Statists.

[Wyatt's Torch]

I’m certainly not surprised. Obamacare will stay until it completely collapses and is replaced by single payer. Unfortunately that is the path we are on...

[caww]

....”Establishment Republicans won’t change, and are incompatible with effective opposition”.

Perfect wordage...May I use that as a tag please? I’ve never had one but this so suites how I see where the real “problem” rests....it’s up to the people to change this equation.

There’s little we can do but vote to get these people out...and like tentacles wrapped around our country they are not going to let loose without tightening their hold...just as we saw in this whole fiasco.

[caww]

[thouworm]

I would be banned if I wrote what truly should happen to him and all traitors in Congress. They are truly destroying our Republic right before our eyes.

LOL. At those moments, I stick to my personal talking-point theory re: our Rinos, GOPe's, and Shadow Dems:

Bribed, blackmailed, or comatose.

[jjsheridan5]

Perfect wordage...May I use that as a tag please?

Feel free to do so. The more people that realize this, the better. Sometimes, to vote for the lesser of two evils is actually to fall into a trap.

[OB1kNOb]

Eff em. Every last single one of them in D.C. Bunch of blood sucking leeches.

[caww]

Republican motto....

[Owen]

“Boehner believes that granting amnesty will garner votes from grateful illegals — he is dead wrong.”

The problem is you’re 30 years out of date. You’re 100% correct — 30 years ago. 100% correct.

But it’s 30 years later. It’s not the illegals becoming citizens that are turning Colorado from Red to Blue and starting to do Arizona, too.

It’s children of illegals born in the US, fully US citizens and now 30 year old voters, whose numbers have grown to define Colorado and Arizona. There might be proposals to stop “anchor babies” from being US citizens, but there are no proposals even from the most conservative of conservatives to remove citizenship from 30 year olds.

We’re screwed. There is no fix for it.

[jjsheridan5]

I’m certainly not surprised. Obamacare will stay until it completely collapses and is replaced by single payer. Unfortunately that is the path we are on...

Not that it really matters right now, but I don't believe they will go for single payer. I think they will go for single provider, with forced compliance. The difference is that the "premiums" will be absurdly expensive, and the political class (R and D alike) will use exemptions and deductions to control the populace.

This would be even more evil than single payer, so I believe that is the eventual goal of Obama, McCain, etc.

[SteveH]

collins plan in a nutshell

1 extends debt ceiling for 6 months

2 gets rid of medical device tax imposed by obamacare

3 subjects obamacare subsidy applicants to income verification

from

Collins Plan Brings Hope That Shutdown Is Near End
Newsmax
12 oct 2013

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Collins-budget-default-agreement/2013/10/12/id/530705

i might have some details wrong (sorry if so)

imho point 3 requires House Republicans touch the Obamacare tarbaby in a direct way, something they might not be willing to do...

now feinstein is addressing senate

thanking group of 14, and thanking even sen cruz for not standing in way of vote

[SteveH]

lol

[SteveH]

feinstein dissing what she calls overuse of cloture rule,
specifically mentioning how cloture was used to limit debate on a clean CR

feinstein wants to join the group of 14 (huh? she was not invited?? she was denied joining??)

[Democrat_media]

so the media has you a freeper believing that borrowing trillions of dollars more is good for the economy and for markets.

you all see the power of the evil media now?

nothing could be further from the truth. not raising the debt limit would be good for the markets long term as our debt would not skyrocket then

I guess if the media tells you to cure your headache by drilling a hole in your head with an ice pick you’ll believe that too cause it’s on TV?