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'Tosh Plumlee claims he was hired to fly covert missions on behalf of U.S. intelligence. He says he flew C-130s in and out of Quintero's ranch and airports throughout Central America in the 1980s.

"The United States government played both ends against the middle. We were running guns. We were running drugs. We were using the drug money to finance the gun running operation," says Plumlee, who now works in Colorado.'

1 posted on 10/15/2013 4:46:39 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Ten or twenty years ago I always dismissed such reports as leftist claptrap —I never listened and this bilge angered me.

You know what?

I COMPLETELY BELIEVE IT, NOW.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 5:10:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Theoria
Theoria: "The United States government played both ends against the middle.
We were running guns.
We were running drugs.
We were using the drug money to finance the gun running operation," says Plumlee, who now works in Colorado.'

Wanna bet whether or not it is still going on ?
"Fast and Furious "
"Benghazi "
etc .. ?

4 posted on 10/15/2013 5:23:05 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Theoria; gaijin; grumpygresh; Tilted Irish Kilt; Absolutely Nobama; Alex Murphy; alpo; ...

Ping...

Once again, we see the offence that leads to execution by new world order has to do with messing with “their” money system. Investigating the “money” aspect of drugs leads inevitably to the international banking establishment, a link that new world order needs to keep secret in order to not expose the network that includes drugs, banking, intelligence, government, all under the control of financial elites who are publicly known as legitimate leaders of business, quiet/eccentric/philanthropist billionaires, highly esteemed government officials, etc.

More from this must-read article...

Using a series of wiretaps, the DEA and Camarena were making sizeable drug busts inside Mexico, including one that cost Quintero $2.5 billion.

“Camarena was kidnapped and murdered because he came up with the idea that we needed to chase the money not the drugs,” said Berrellez, who led the investigation into Camarena’s murder. “We were seizing a huge amount of drugs. However, we were not really disrupting the cartels. So he came up with the idea that we should set up a task force and target their monies.”

In February 1985, as Camarena left to meet his wife for lunch outside the U.S. consulate in Guadalajara, he was surrounded by Mexican intelligence officers from the DFS, a Mexican intelligence agency that no longer exists.

“Back in the middle 1980’s, the DFS, their main role was to protect the drug lords,” Berrellez claims.

U.S. intelligence documents obtained by Fox News support that assessment: “Drug smugglers/transporters employed by Rafael Caro Quintero were always provided protection prior to moving a drug load....two DFS agents (would) accompany the smugglers at all times to avoid any problems.”

Blindfolded and held at gunpoint, the DFS agents took Camarena to one of Quintero’s haciendas five miles away.

Over 30 hours, Quintero and others crushed Camarena’s skull, jaw, nose and cheekbones with a tire iron. They broke his ribs, drilled a hole in his head and tortured him with a cattle prod. As Camarena lay dying, Quintero ordered a cartel doctor to keep the U.S. agent alive.

“At that point he administered lidocaine into his heart to keep him alert and awake during the torture,” said Berrellez.

After the cartel dumped Camarena’s body on a nearby ranch, the DEA closed in on Quintero at the Guadalajara airport.

“Upon arrival we were confronted by over 50 DFS agents pointing machine guns and shotguns at us—the DEA. They told us we were not going to take Caro Quintero,” says Berrellez, recalling the stand-off. “Well, Caro Quintero came up to the plane door waved a bottle of champagne at the DEA agents and said, ‘My children, next time, bring more guns.’ And laughed at us.”

...

“Our intelligence agencies were working under the cover of DFS. And as I said it before, unfortunately, DFS agents at that time were also in charge of protecting the drug lords and their monies,” said Berrellez.

“After the murder of Camarena, (Mexico’s) investigation pointed that the DFS had been complicit along with American intelligence in the kidnap and torture of Kiki. That’s when they decided to disband the DFS.”

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5 posted on 10/15/2013 5:52:48 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Theoria

Did he happen to land often in Hope, AR?


9 posted on 10/15/2013 7:22:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Theoria

Somebody should update the wikipedia article, it has no mention of CIA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Camarena_%28DEA_agent%29


13 posted on 10/15/2013 7:51:31 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Theoria
William “Tosh” Plumlee was involved with the Contra effort.

As were pilots Barry Seal & Terry Reed.

As was Col Ollie North.

I have been to Mena many times.

I studied this as much as is possible in the mid 1990’s. (after the facts) Terry Reed's book “Compromised” came out in 1995. I talked to locals in Mena about it. They did not want to talk about what went on at Nella.

The illegal Contra Effort began in mid 1984.

There were accusations of drug involvement by the CIA back then. I doubt that Reed was involved, suspect Barry Seal was (he was killed assassinated execution style), don't know about Plumlee.

Would not be surprised if Bill Clinton's cohorts in AR were involved in the drug trade. They were laundering the money from the arms sales that financed the Contra Efforts for 10% of the action. That was what Whitewater covered up.

That effort wound up in Guadalajara after things got too hot in AR.

I have heard accusations about Bush (the elder) involvement, but still do not believe that.

But I recently heard that MX is now a center for Global Banking. If that report is true, and I suspect it is, this is more credible.

MX is dangerous evil place. But I am not sure of what to believe about this article.

15 posted on 10/15/2013 10:31:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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