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To: celmak; ek_hornbeck

About many things I’m sure we agree, but I think we’re going to have to do what other posters on here have, leave it at a respectful disagreement. I will just point out again that the Confederates were looking for the freedom and liberty too, that you’re saying trumps all the hatred of the stars and stripes. As much as anyone, I wish there were a more peaceful resolution to the slavery issue. Other countries resolved the same problem, but without a war between brothers and cousins.

About the bonnie blue flag, all power to those who fly it for Southern pride. But I think your argument against the battle flag is also an argument against the bonnie blue one, as it also flew in the same way for slavery, unless Mississippi had a different view of it than the rest of the Confederacy. And it leads back to what I was trying to say about the stars and bars. Though these two flags, the bonnie blue and the stars and bars, would better represent the planter aristocracy that actually owned the slaves, far more than the battle flag, which those in the South who owned no slaves in the main fought and died for, those who claim to hate something from over 150 years ago now would have less to complain about (if any complaint at all) with those two flying. The Confederate battle flag has represented Southern pride for many more years than the Confederacy even existed. It’s an Alinsky tactic to attack a part for the whole and I think that’s what’s going on here. Instead of coming straight at an attack on American pride, they’ll go for the target they feel most likely to work. And if we let them, it will. So if they were done attacking the battle flag, what do you expect would stop them going after the bonnie blue flag, once they smarten up and figure out what it is? I don’t expect the American Indian maiden on the New York flag to escape either.


294 posted on 10/15/2013 2:23:09 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork
"But I think your argument against the battle flag is also an argument against the bonnie blue one, as it also flew in the same way for slavery, unless Mississippi had a different view of it than the rest of the Confederacy."

Uh, no; unlike the Confederate flag, the Bonnie Blue was not created for the Democratic Slaver Party.

http://www.anyflag.com/history/bonnie.htm

299 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:59 PM PDT by celmak
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