“I dare say we already have a third party.
"We have the liberal party, the GOP machine, and then we’ve got the Good Guys.”
"Like, Senator's (Ted)Cruz, (Mike) Lee & Rand Paul" she went on to say...
Posted on 10/11/2013 10:41:08 AM PDT by Kazan
(CNSNews.com) - Fifty-two percent of Republicans say that America needs a third party, according to a newly released Gallup poll. Forty-nine percent of Democrats say the same thing.
"In fact,' said Gallup in its analysis of the poll, "this marks the first time that a majority of either party's supporters have said a third party is needed."
The Gallup survey, which interviewed 1,028 adults (18 and over) nationwide, asked: 'In your view, do the Republican and Democratic parties do an adequate job of representing the American people, or do they do such a poor job that a third major party is needed."
Overall, 60 percent said that a third party was needed, 26 percent said the Republicans and Democrats do an adequate job, and 14 percent said they had no opinion.
The 60 percent who said a third party was needed was the highest percentage giving that answer to Gallup since the polling company started asking the question back in 2003. The 26 percent who said the two major parties are doing an adequate is the lowest percentage who have given that answer.
Gallup did not publish any survey data about why those among the 60 percent think a third party is needed.
Trust me: Palin and Cruz both think this is a STUPID idea and they will NEVER back the idea.
You are going to have to learn that people will no longer vote for your liberal(R) in the general election.
Even if you throw a temper-tantrum and attack the people whose votes you need.
/johnny
Ron Paul supporter?
Enough said, you will be ignored by most from now on.
/johnny
I don’t see much cohesion in the GOP either, with establishment Republicans abandoning the base and attacking TEA partiers for public consumption.
News flash — “moderate” Republicans are no different than democrats, except when they are campaigning. You are missing the bigger picture here. Perhaps you are ruled by emotion? Or perhaps you just don’t “get it”? What is suicide for Conservatives is blindly voting “R”.
The Democrats are an enemy, to be sure. But no less of an enemy is establishment Republicans.
Human Nature will be HUMAN NATURE —
There is absolutely, positively, NO WAY that any Third Party will come up with a “super race” of politicians able to avoid cowardice, corruption, scandal or any other vice or problem.
TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! That is the only answer.
Any other “Third Party” will have the very same faults as the GOP, as it will be comprised of human beings.
This thread is discussing the need for a third party. When the last republican president shredded the bill of rights with the patriot act (passed with not one congresscritter even seeing it), stole money from us to bail out his bankster buddies, could not find his veto pen for 7 years, signs a light bulb ban, etc. I think we need a third party.
Do not forget his "brain" Tokyo Rove sticking McCain and Romney up our kazoos, dissing Tea Party Senate primary winners etc.
The man did far more damage to the nation than Clinton did.
We need a 3rd party or a 2nd country. I’m thinking the latter is what it will take.
I am not against taking over the Republican party. I will support Cruz, Lee, and any other conservative, intelligent, Republican.
What I will never do is repeat prior mistakes — campaigning for McCain, voting for Romney, encouraging others to do so. Establishment Republicans are such a vile enemy that I would vote democrat before giving them my vote.
As far as 3rd party, I am somewhat ambivalent at the moment. But time is running out, however. Make no mistake — the Republican party is a dead man walking if the establishment is not ousted within a year.
This was emailed to me WITH NO URL:
“THE PERFECT QUOTE
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in the Prague newspaper, Prager Zeitungon. “
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President.”
I'm with you... that whole thing about we're the "Dem-Lite" party is nuts.
Maybe 10 years ago a third party would have HELPED...
NOW.. is a bit LATE... actually WAY late...
Short of a Civil War America is gonzo... kaput...
So bad THAT!....... voting DIED Nov 6th 2012... dead as a cork..
The only republicans that CAN or WILL be elected ARE..
The republicans thats supposed to be elected.. i.e. Myth Romney..
Trust me: Palin and Cruz both think this is a STUPID idea and they will NEVER back the idea.I wouldn't bet the farm on that.
Posted on October 05 2013 - 12:34 PM - Posted by: Stacy Drake
In an exclusive interview with Breitbart’s Tony Lee and Stephen K. Bannon, Governor Palin unloaded on the GOP establishment, saying many things that needed to be said:
Palin told Breitbart News that these establishment financiers cannot relate to the average American worker and are throwing a "fit" because Wall Street knows they are in a whole new ballgame where their influence is diminishing.
Palin was responding to an article by David Freilander in Thursday’s Daily Beast in which prominent Republican establishment financiers showed disdain for the conservative grassroots while being unable to identify exactly what a "precinct captain" is.
Palin, who started her political career on the local level as an outsider before eventually challenging the GOP establishment in Alaska to become governor, said that the "GOP high roller machine can’t win elections with their cash anymore."
"If they could, all the money they threw at Romney would have paid off," Palin said, referring to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s inability to galvanize the blue-collar conservative base during the 2012 presidential election. "It’s the average American – the grassroots Tea Party patriot with enthusiasm and boots on the ground – who wins elections":
So I say call these guys out and expose the fact that they no longer control any conservative movement because they’re not the voice of the people. See, some of these Wall Street guys basically want to use the GOP for three things: They want low taxes for themselves; they want lots of cheap foreign labor (aka blanket amnesty); and they want to be safe (though most won’t send their own kids to fight our wars, they don’t want anyone blowing up buildings in Manhattan; so they’re all for sending our sons and daughters to whatever foreign hell hole beckons to make sure the bad guys stay off our soil).
Palin, the avatar of the Tea Party movement whom the Republican establishment has tried to eviscerate and whose endorsement former South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint (R) said had the most influence in Republican primaries, was not finished excoriating the establishment financiers who were berating the Tea Party:
Ask yourself if most of them really care about America’s industrial base or can even relate to the American worker and our values. The particular fat cats who are so often used as anonymous sources to trash the grassroots see this latest Tea Party effort to keep essential government open as just a distraction. They’re throwing a bit of a fit because this is a whole new, needed ballgame where their money can’t buy elections anymore.
According to a Daily Beast report, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, met with top GOP donors for lunch last month at Le Cirque, a fancy restaurant on Lexington Avenue in Manhattan.
The donors, described as "a youngish collection of financial industry types and lawyers" and "banker types who occupy the upper reaches of Wall Street’s towers" were frustrated at what they saw as conservative recalcitrance on the budget and could not understand why Republican politicians had to listen to their constituents and the grassroots who sent them to Washington. Walden told them, "Listen … we have to do this because of the Tea Party. If we don’t, these guys are going to get primaried and they are going to lose their primary.”
[...]
The financial elite and the political establishment, though, often treat these grassroots voters the way Democrats have been accused of treating African American voters–using them for their votes during election season and running as far away from them as possible once they come to Washington. The Daily Beast writes that "a number of GOP donors are wondering if it is time for a little outside counter-pressure to sap the Tea Party of some of its energy," to "stand up and not be afraid of the Tea Party."
The conservatives these donors so disdain revolted in part because of the big-government domestic policies of former President George W. Bush last decade, especially No Child Left Behind and the TARP bailouts during the 2008 financial crisis caused by the reckless behavior from the industries that employ these donors on Wall Street.
These independent-minded Americans are supporting the third-party of "good guys" that Palin recently referenced in speaking of senators like Cruz and Mike Lee (R-UT). They see that the so-called Bipartisan Establishment Party, or "BEP," really did not differ that much from Democrats when it came to growing the size of government and supporting policies like comprehensive immigration reform that benefit themselves and their cronies while harming working class Americans.
[...]
Palin told Breitbart News that "the day the GOP machine abandons the grassroots patriot – the heart and soul of the party who actually gets people elected – is the day the GOP elephant is extinct."
"This keeps up and I’m not sticking around to watch it happen," Palin said.
You can read the entire article here.
Thanks, mel. This is why I’ll NEVER forgive anyone that voted for jug-ears and that includes family members. Sometimes blood isn’t thicker than water.
I used to vote third party (Libertarian), too, and felt really smug about it. Never again. I've learned my lesson.
The GOP owns the Clinton win. Just like they own the Obama win.
Run a liberal and the Democrats will always win.
I won't vote for your liberal(R) candidate.
/johnny
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