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Gallup: 52% of Republicans Say America Needs a 3rd Party
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| 10/11/2013
| Terry Jeffery
Posted on 10/11/2013 10:41:08 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: 4rcane
there actually is an American Independent Party.
To: pluvmantelo
I didnt dislike the man, but looking back I've concluded that Bush 43 mortally wounded the party. Bush 41 did a damned good start. 43 was the coup de grâce.
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:54:26 AM PDT
by
Dogbert41
(Up yours NSA !)
To: fieldmarshaldj
No need for a third party.
Just kick out the Washington elite from the GOP.
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:54:56 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: Kansas58
If you do not have the numbers to control the Republican Party, how on Earth are you going to win when EVERYONE votes in the General Election?
We do have the numbers. The problem is that the establishment is very entrenched, and difficult to dislodge. That we have come so far in 4 years is truly remarkable, but these things take time. And the events of the last few weeks have been a huge "fast forward" button.
To: 4rcane
Run conservatives IN THE PRIMARY against RINO types.
That is what we need to do.
any other strategy is self-defeating and wont work.
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:56:33 AM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: TangledUpInBlue
The problem with this is that I suspect most people who answered affirmatively would want a more moderate approach to the third party regardless of where they politically align now. The result of the last presidential election is PROOF that you are wrong.
Americans want a party they can vote for that they know will be seeking to reduce American government tyranny. I can think of Democrats and liberals I know who are as disgusted with government intrusion as conservatives are. The trade-off -- AND IT IS A GOOD ONE -- is that so-called "social" conservatives *cough* rick santorum huckabee *cough* will have to relinquish their goal of using government for charity and social engineering.
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:56:44 AM PDT
by
Finny
(Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
To: Kazan
It would be fine by me.
Watching the GOP leadership doggedly push amnesty (2007, 2013), watching their scurrilous backstabbing of Palin, watching them nominate a liberal from Massachusetts... it’s become more than obvious the Republican Party not only no longer shares my values, but holds me and my views in utter contempt.
Voted exclusively GOP my entire life, but I doubt I ever will again. I’ll have to see Palin or Cruz at the top of the ticket before I’ll even entertain such a notion.
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:57:21 AM PDT
by
greene66
To: Kazan
No we don’t
McCain, Ryan, McConnell, cornyn, anyone else who (oh, Graham) has been collaborating with, complimenting, fraternizing and otherwise promoting the party of abortion, post constitutionalism and general socialism, and otherwise just generally not representing his or her voters as republicans and American constitutional interests as advertised and, oh, sworn to do, can form their own party.
And they can prove their laziness and worthlessness in their failure to do as much as to split away and come up with a name for themselves.
No thanks
The Republican Party, the GOP is doing just fine.
It is under new management
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posted on
10/11/2013 10:57:32 AM PDT
by
stanne
To: MNlurker
Three parties would make impeachment much more feasible, but the gop would swing left if there was a right party.
To: Kansas58
Run conservatives IN THE PRIMARY against RINO types. That is what we need to do. any other strategy is self-defeating and wont work.
What is self-defeating is voting for RINOs in the general election. They are an even greater threat to this country than Democrats are, because they suck the wind out of any real opposition. I can safely say 2 things:
1) I will never again vote for a non-Tea Party Republican; and
2) I am not alone.
To: Kazan
I’m sure every democrat agrees with this.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:00:43 AM PDT
by
barmag25
To: pluvmantelo
I don't think so, or at least not directly. Really the RINO thing has been a problem for a long ime. In fact, pre-Goldwater, the GOP pretty much was nothing but what we think of today as RINOs. Even as the conservatives began to take over the party, those old-line Republicans (and their heirs) were still around, and remained the administrative backbone of the party. Not surprising that, once ceonservatives started to look likely to really cut back the governemnt, those old-line Republicans started to try to take the party back.
Bush 41 was certainly one of the old-line crowd, but was willing to work with conservatives. I think Bush 43 was more conservative than his father, but probably still full of old-line tendencies.
But really once 9/11 and the War on Terror happened, Bush 43 became somewhat irrelevant in the struggle between old-line and conservative until the left managed to demonize the war and the party in power. That was when the old-line types really thought they had a solid lock on re-taking the party, and Bush 43 worked with them because he was pretty much out of allies otherwise.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:01:31 AM PDT
by
AzSteven
("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
To: Kazan
I’d say they need a second party, at this point.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:01:39 AM PDT
by
MortMan
(Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
To: Kazan
People seem to pay plenty of lip service to third parties when there are no elections near.
Then, as it gets closer & closer to election day, those same people start dropping like flies & bending over backwards to explain why we MUST, MUST, MUST vote for some lukewarm, quasi-liberal GOP candidate for the good of the known universe.
Most recent example -- Romney in 2012.
This time will be no different. Mark my words.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:01:46 AM PDT
by
gdani
To: LuvFreeRepublic
Bushs fault???Patriot act. Trying to build two nations and failing miserably. TSA. Medicare part D. Light bulb ban. TARP. Spending increased faster than it did under Clinton. Amnesty, three times we had to tell the jerk not just no, but hell no. He earned lots of blame.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT
by
SpeakerToAnimals
(I hope to earn a name in battle)
To: Kansas58
Since the GOP has proved that it hates conservatives, will attack conservatives, and wants conservatives to vote for them and then shut up... why on earth would any conservative vote for the GOP?
/johnny
To: Kazan
That’s a little low... I am certain it’s more than 52%
We’ll know soon enough! ;)
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:04:16 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
To: Kazan
McConnell and Boehner better understand their actions can have serious conseuquences.
Fiscal responsibility is a winning idea and if the GOP wants to be the Grand Obamalite Party they will pay.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:04:40 AM PDT
by
Nextrush
(BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
To: jjsheridan5
The Republican Party is road kill.
The best way to start a new party is to have Independents run. This tactic has been very successful for Democrats and will work to get Conservatives elected as a cadre for a new Party. With the elected officials that want to keep support from Sarah Palin, the path has already been opened.
TWB
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:05:23 AM PDT
by
TWhiteBear
(Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
To: MrB
I think that was effectively done during about hour two of the filibuster.
Last ones to realize it will be the whimpering McCain and McConnell in the months to come.
THe moderate electorate will continue to cry< ‘stop the bickering’, like an overindulgent mother. But the new leaders will be rubbing dirt on it in the huddle,, and will come out again, unapologetically.
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posted on
10/11/2013 11:07:10 AM PDT
by
stanne
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