Paul Ryan Wants Budget Conference (GOP caves on shutdown?)

Roll Call ^ | 10/10/2013 | Emma Dumain and Niels Lesniewski

[JRandomFreeper]

BTTT.

/johnny

[Alter Kaker]

Our entire strategy is to force negotiations over the budget, now Paul Ryan is a traitor for seeking negotiations over the budget?

Negotiations are great, conference committee is a no go.

[redgolum]

Not really. There will be a crash sooner or later. Timing no longer concerns me. The only question is who will leverage that crash into election results

[concerned about politics]

Oh great. The polls are showing oboma as one of the most irresponsible presidents in recent history, and what do the idiot the Republicans do? They turn him back into a savior of all man kind in the name of "bipartisanship.".

Gawd, I despise the RINOs in Washington. If someone isn't 100% tea party, they can bite me come the next election. I won't be deceived again. They'll be booted out like they deserve, because they're no different than their so called "opponents."

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[Nextrush]

There will another “imperfect deal” in the end probably right before Christmas when your minds may be in diverted or in a different mode.

The train will keep rolling down the tracks to the cliff, its only the rate of speed that needs to be determined.

[what's up]

He sucks why?

Because as budget Chair he's going to do his job and negotiate a budget?

Really?

[riri]

I agree. I never “got it back” for Ryan after that bizarre debate performance. His, not Biden’s. I expect that crap from the democrats.

[riri]

There are approximately 80 other posts on this thread laying out reasons why he “sucks”. Not sure why you singled me out but peruse the thread and pick one.

[what's up]

pick one

I did pick one. You.

And that's because your post stuck out as slamming Ryan with no reasoning.

Negotiating a budget is Ryan's job. So because he's doing his job he sucks?

[SkyPilot]

He sucks why? Because as budget Chair he's going to do his job and negotiate a budget? Really?

Wow. Someone on Free Republic who is actually employing logic and rationale rather than having a hissy fit with their emotions.

Kudos to you.

You are, of course, correct. That is his role.

We don't control the Senate. We don't control the White House.

Ryan actually should have gone to Conference months ago. The Senate called our bluff and actually passed a budget this year (first time since 2009).

Per regular order, the House MUST hold a Conference with the Senate budget to work out the discrepancies.

Ryan was under tremendous pressure to bring this mess to yet another "cliff" and beyond.

Last week, many GOP House members realized too late that they have painted themselves into a corner.

They know they can either raise the debt ceiling before great harm is done to the US economy, or after great harm has been done to the US economy.

We have done that, and the gain was always going to be minimal given the two inconvenient facts again:

We don't control the Senate. We don't control the White House.

Once the America voter corrects the above, then it is another ballgame - but unfortunately, we have millions of lazy, immoral Takers who voted otherwise (not to mention a rigged election due to the IRS scandal and voter fraud, but that is another conversation).

Any budget agreement, be in yet another CR or a real budget (the first in years) has to be negotiated.

Ryan warned yesterday, in no uncertain terms, that if have a technical default (and prioritizing payments is a default by another name), then the interest rates on our debt will skyrocket, and that slice of the Federal budget we now make in debt payments will eat the budget alive.

[what's up]

We don't control the Senate. We don't control the White House.

Correct and yet a majority of people here hate the GOP for not giving them everything they want.

Basically the main job of the GOP right now is to hold the line. They've done it with gun control, they've done it with cap and trade...and we actually got a slowing in spending which is remarkable given we only have 1/3 of the Govt.

I can't believe the hatred toward Ryan is so thick because he "caved" and wants to negotiate a budget. Ryan didn't cave. He's doing his job.

[JRandomFreeper]

We do have the ultimate power of the purse in the House, though. That's a pretty big club to wield. The debt cap doesn't require a default.

/johnny

[SADMILLIE]

Ryan is out of influence. HE IS A CAVER.

[RedMDer]

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[SunkenCiv]

*OBAMA REJECTS REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL FOR SHORT-TERM PLAN: NYT
Zerohedge
Posted on 10/10/2013 3:32:28 PM PDT by thought
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3077394/posts

[Jim Robinson]

They can refuse to vote for funding Obamacare. If the house does not fund it, it does not get funded. Period.

[caww]

They already have a years delay on the mandate....Seblius said individuls can ‘pay the fine’ and they have a year.

[caww]

It’s my understanding this 6 week extension would keep them coming back for more money the next six weeks etc. etc....wearing them down ..meanwhile the House passes funding bills for everything else in Government one bill or so at a time .... then the Senate has to or not fund each one...but in doing this piece by piece it bypasses entirely funding Obamacare.

[freedom462]

Fair enough. At this point, it seems we have to keep prayers up that the House GOP stays the course and if they don;t, respond accordingly for the next year and a half, all the way through the Nov 2014 elections and cast our votes in accordance to who stays the course and who folds.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

“then defeat obamacare through persuasion”

After we lose 90% of our best doctors. Yeah, sounds ‘great’.