[nathanbedford]

I posted this three days ago:

In a way it is our very good fortune that Ted Cruz and Mike Lee precipitated this crisis over Obamacare rather than remaining passive on the promise of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell the fight over the issue of the debt ceiling. This not just because those promises by these two are illusory but because the Obamacare shutdown has smoked Obama out and provides cover to the Republicans to extend the debt while maintaining a shutdown in pursuit of Obamacare.

The problem is, as always, we cannot rely on our own troops to remain steadfast. But it seems that they of that we had better alert the country about Obama's unconstitutional intentions and we really should devise a strategy to deal with it. The most obvious strategy is, as I have described, to continue steadfast over Obamacare but extend the debt ceiling for a very limited time. Please note that Obama is insisting on a 13 month extension of the debt ceiling and will not otherwise negotiate. This is further evidence of his desire to force an emergency. At least the Republicans should keep the issue alive with a very short extension of the debt ceiling while depriving him of the justification for stealing the power of the purse from Congress.

I expect to receive some criticism for even consenting to extension of the debt ceiling but I await a better strategy to emerge.

[Kit cat]

Hi, Nathanbedford! You will get NO flack from me, you are one of the most
informed people I know! If you think this what WE should do I am with you
whole heartedly! To the phones and e-mail I go, I halfway expect the NSA
to come knocking at my door! I have been so VERY surprised at the GOP
holding their ground, the citizenry must be EXTREMELY active!

[wastoute]

You are a smart guy. Way to smart for this. All these strategies to “win harts and minds” will come to nothing. Bottom line. We will NEVER allow our rights as individuals to be subordinated to “the collective” no matter what subterfuge used. Call it BozoCare or whatever or strategies or tactics to deal with the fact or fiction that we are outnumbered by 2% or whatever. This is the fight. Make it CLEAR. We will not quit. We will not submit. We will not bend a knee to any man.

[donmeaker]

There is the point that without an increase in the debt ceiling evern more federal workers would be fired.

And then, as the debts increase, them more federal workers would be fired.

But the current bums would be sure to hurt honorable veterans first, and old people dependent on SS after that, so long as the democrat activists with federal pay got their money, and the union thugs got their cut.

[Lazamataz]

I like your idea.

[riri]

So, aren't we just buying a short amount of time? What really changes in a short window of <13 months? I am not against buying time as I am not really looking forward to what may be coming. I just do not think there are enough serious people who understand, care or are not in the gov't wagon to make a difference. It seems the more we hobble on, the more that become impoverished and are in that wagon.

[Yosemitest]

The Debt Limit should NOT be extended or raised at all.
As a matter of fact, it should be reduced by 10 percent.
Bring the fires of HELL against the Establishment Republicans and the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.