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The Anniversary of the Income Tax – the Worst Day in American History?
Townhall.com ^ | October 4, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 10/04/2013 8:08:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: redinIllinois

Sure, it’s simple math. It was so simple that the clowns pushing that scam at first never mentioned the 30% rate. No, they only talked about 23%. On one thread alone I asked one of you weasels 13 times what the rate really was. You guys have a bad scam that no one is buying. People just don’t like being lied to.


41 posted on 10/04/2013 2:04:56 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Wow! A point of agreement.


42 posted on 10/04/2013 4:01:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s quite apparent the terminal damage they have done to the rights granted under the Constitution.

We didn’t lose these rights until WOMEN freely traded them for the promise of SAFETY and FAIRNESS in exchange for the government TO PROTECT US!

GUNS
MEN
MASCULINITY
SELF RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
THE WELFARE SYSTEM
WOMAN’S RIGHTS
GAY RIGHTS & MARRIAGE

And a host of many other “special” rules and regulations that take total responsibility for one’s actions away from them and cite the cause as some type of made up disease or mental deficiency or from the actions of everyone except themselves.

There is a very true statement: Women think with their hearts while men think with their minds.

Why do you think that after the 1960’s we started to bleed our freedoms away at an amazing pace? It certainly was not due to the acts of men who were hunted down like rabid dogs for thinking logically and acting like........a male.

Maybe you were backing the “bra burning” era but that was the true start to the major and rapid decline of the American family an freedoms.

What’s dumb about that? Maybe you can explain better how we find ourselves in the current fix we are in.


43 posted on 10/04/2013 5:15:38 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Kaslin
Remember what I said is totally wrong with our income tax system:

1. 30,000 tax lobbyists--HALF the lobbyists in Washington, DC--fighting for every scrap of a tax loophole. And you get political corruption on a huge scale over this.
2. The result is a tax code over 70,000 pages long so complex that it makes James Joyce's Finnegans Wake almost easy to read in comparison. Even the IRS can't figure out much of the tax code!
3. The sheer complexity means exorbitant yearly compliance costs, estimated by some economists to soon approach US$500 BILLION per year (and climbing fast in each subsequent year, especially with the imposition of Obamacare mandates through the tax code).
4. It also encourages the outsourcing of millions of jobs, thousands of factories, and hundreds of corporate headquarters for tax avoidance reasons. Care to explain why Apple manufactures its products in China, and why Google has to used that highly-complex and expensive Double Irish with Dutch Sandwich accounting scheme to lower its tax bill?
5. It results in (by some estimates) around US$15 TRILLION in American-owned liquid assets sitting in offshore financial centers and other foreign banks for tax avoidance reasons (care to explain all those "banks" in the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, and so on? Or why Apple has 70% of its US$130 billion liquid asset reserve outside the USA?).
6. Government uses the tax code as a political instrument to favor or punish political constituencies as little as ONE taxpaying entity. The recent scandal using the IRS to target conservative 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) groups is clear proof of this.
7. Because the IRS needs to know intimate details of personal and business financial records in tax return filings, there are potentially serious issues with invasion of privacy. Care to explain why former Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's private tax returns ended up in the offices of Senator Harry Reid (D-NV)?
8. The IRS assumes you're guilty of tax evasion, and you end up having less rights than most common criminals!

Utter economic and political insanity. Maybe it's time to completely ditch the income tax and replace it with this:


44 posted on 10/04/2013 5:15:39 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: DH

Perhaps you prefer your women bare feet and pregnant like any chauvinistic pig


45 posted on 10/04/2013 5:58:25 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: DH

Grow up.


46 posted on 10/04/2013 6:00:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kaslin

Please explain your reasoning.

I simply ask, why should anyone have to pay more than someone else for the same service?


47 posted on 10/05/2013 10:38:18 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: PTBAA
I like your idea.

Taxation is the term we use when Government takes money from people by force. It has some resemblance to theft.

On the other hand, there are some unavoidable costs associated with maintaining a nation. The most significant and obvious of these is mentioned in the preamble to the Constitution - national defense.

I have long likened citizenship to membership in a club. If you are going to belong to a club, you have to pay your dues. Dues are the same for each member. The same way you have to pay for grounds-keeping in a golf course club, you should have to pay for national defense as a citizen. (Serving in the military could count also).

You know someone won't pay. So what are the consequences? Losing the franchise for the year that you don't pay would be a reasonable solution.

48 posted on 04/29/2014 4:15:41 PM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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