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G.O.P. Elders See Liabilities in Shutdown
New York Times ^ | October 3, 2013 | By JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 10/04/2013 5:26:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The hard-line stance of Republican House members on the government shutdown is generating increasing anger among senior Republican officials, who say the small bloc of conservatives is undermining the party and helping President Obama just as the American people appeared to be losing confidence in him.

“Fighting with the president is one thing,” said Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri. “Fighting with the president and losing is another thing. When you’re in the minority you need to look really hard to find the fights you can win.”

And on Wednesday at a private luncheon, several Senate Republicans — Dan Coats of Indiana, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire — assailed Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who has led the movement to block funding for the health law.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ayotte; budget; deficit; gop4obamacare; gop4romneycare; govtshutdown; obamacare; romneyagenda; shutdown; teamromney
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A recent Bloomberg survey found that 40 percent blame the GOP for what’s wrong in Washington, while 38 percent blame the president and congressional Democrats. Back in February, Obama had a nine-point edge over Republicans and independents were evenly divided over who was responsible. Now, 42 percent of independents fault with Obama and his allies in Congress, while 34 percent blame Republicans on Capitol Hill.

The latest CNN poll found a similar trend, with the percentage who blame congressional Republicans for a government shutdown down five points and the percent who blame Obama up three points.

WE need to send this to the worried ones crying in the corner,,maybe it will help them take heart


21 posted on 10/04/2013 5:43:03 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: ClearCase_guy

The House controls the purse strings.

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EXACTLY! This is the mantra that the GOP should be shouting at every opportunity.

Democrats are saying that Obamacare is the law. Republicans should retort by saying that under the Constitution the House controls the purse strings and decides what, when and how much to spend. It is the voice of the people making those decisions, not the Senate or the president.


22 posted on 10/04/2013 5:44:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They’re:

1) jealous because Cruz is the statesman that none of them will ever be

and

2) scared because they’re losing the fight with US.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 5:45:28 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It looks like maybe we CAN win.

The old GOP RINO’s need to get on-board their ice floe and keep their mouths shut. If they want us to be burdened with Obamacare, then then should just be honest and switch over to the Democrat Party.

I heard on the radio that the Republicans want to use defunding Obamacare as a negotiating tool.

NO!

Note to Republican politicians:

READ OUR LIPS-
WE. DO. NOT. WANT. OBAMACARE!!!!!

IF YOU VALUE YOUR JOBS AND THE PARTY DEFUND. DEFUND. DEFUND!!!!

24 posted on 10/04/2013 5:45:38 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: txrefugee

Their sudden concern for the well-being and viability of the Republican Party is touching. /sarc


25 posted on 10/04/2013 5:45:40 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GOP Elders are the cowards who repeatedly ducked and survived. If only a few of them had bravely taken MSM bullets upon occasion, America would not be in the condition it is in today.


26 posted on 10/04/2013 5:46:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That's not, "The sky is falling", but, "The liars are falling", GOP.

It's OK ... you'll not have to be troubled any longer in a few months.

27 posted on 10/04/2013 5:46:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: manc
*the GOP trying to open the Govt with these bills *

I sincerely hope and pray that the Republicans “forget” to open the EPA...for a few decades!

Think what a spur to the economy it would be if businesses didn't have to worry about complying with laws based on the AGW hoax!

28 posted on 10/04/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Despite the uproar, Mr. Cruz did not offer a plan for how his party could prevail in the shutdown battle

The plan is simple -- just keep doing what they are doing and keep the "nonessential" parts of government shutdown until the Senate approves a balanced budget without the nonessentials and without Obamascare.

29 posted on 10/04/2013 5:49:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...the usual suspects.


30 posted on 10/04/2013 5:50:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Schuck it Roy Blunt; schuck it hard and schuck it long.


31 posted on 10/04/2013 5:51:11 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: PATRIOT1876

If the political winds should suddenly shift and the “one funding bill at a time” strategy starts to chip away at the Democrats’ resistance, watch all the RINOs attempt to jump on the bandwagon and claim they were always for a shutdown/defund.

Like the old saying goes, success has many fathers. Nowhere is this more true than in politics.


32 posted on 10/04/2013 5:51:35 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NOW the NY Times seeks the advice and counsel of old, white men.


33 posted on 10/04/2013 5:52:18 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You’re an elder after you retire with dignity. When you are still in office you’re just an old fvck that nobody gives a crap about.


34 posted on 10/04/2013 5:52:42 AM PDT by mindburglar (Karl Rove will call Ted Cruz a "white hispanic".)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL, that’s hilarious.


35 posted on 10/04/2013 5:53:24 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The house should pass a law stating that it is illegal to default on the debt, before that happens all agencies would have to be cut to 75% of their 2012 budget numbers. The only exception being the military.


36 posted on 10/04/2013 5:54:39 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Republican Party needs new “Elders”.


37 posted on 10/04/2013 5:57:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: knarf
*That's not, “The sky is falling”, but, “The liars are falling”, GOP.
It's OK ... you'll not have to be troubled any longer in a few months. *

Yes, we need to keep track of the senile Neville Chamberlain imitators that want us to give up.

If the The UnAffordable HealthCare Act stays, most of them will CERTAINLY be tossed out.

I will be voting third party to show my support for almost any Conservative that is NOT Republican if the hideous monster that will harm all our health and paychecks is allowed to live. I will vote third party even if I don't think my candidate will win, just to see the GOP fail.

They need us Conservatives, they need to stop listening to the Dems and MSNBC when they call us “extremists” and “exotics”.

If the Republicans stop Obamacare, they can pretend like they were against it all along and they might have a chance at sticking around.

It makes me wonder that no one in their families ever spoke to them about doing the right thing?!

38 posted on 10/04/2013 5:58:29 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: PATRIOT1876

Start with funding the VA. Again and again until the Dems give in. Focus on funding the high visibility stuff first and demonstrate that the government can and should be funded one department at a time.

Its just amazing how inept, clumsy and weak most of the Republican Party is.


39 posted on 10/04/2013 5:58:50 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

G.O.P. Elders? They are idiots that got us into this mess to begin with. They can go jump in lake.


40 posted on 10/04/2013 5:59:48 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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