Posted on 10/03/2013 1:19:06 PM PDT by ColdOne
Wonder why he would risk/forfeit his credibility with the agent community on such an easily verifiable point? (Or did I read all of this too quickly and miss a fine point?)
If BP was told to stand down in my area, they are not listening. They have been pretty busy here the last few days and were indeed busy today already chasing smugglers. I have not seen the BP helicopter the last few days when I usually see it every day but not sure that is related.
No surprise. Beginning with the Bush admin, the border has been a joke.
Essential people are working and being told they will be paid at some point.
Non-essential people were sent home- presumably without pay, though they may be paid later if they are salaried employees- that depends on what is put in the CR/budget whenever one is agreed on.
When one of Hussein's muzzie bros brings a nuke across the unguarded border and detonates it in an American city, it will be instant IMPEACHMENT and REMOVAL for the 0bama regime!
What happens when a President orders every agency in the government to violate the laws of the country?
Not sure why he would make a statement that is not true. I imagine like most things there is some truth to it; BP in my area seem like business as usual, chasing smugglers like every other day. Some support may not be available to them- I have not seen any helicopters up but don’t know if that is part of this. Stand down may not be exactly what they were told- I spoke to some BP yesterday and all they said they have been told is go to work and they would get paid at some point, their pay may not be on schedule.
That explains a lot.
Not sure what part of what I am saying conflicts with the NBPC (union)?
I report Agents are excepted and still report to work, don’t get paid, and paid leave is cancelled and there is no stand-down order on the border.
Their might be an Agent or two that is doing the union-work-slow-down thing, but not many.
From NBPC website: “We want to clarify a few things with the looming shut down. 1. Border Patrol agents are required to report for duty. We are “exempt” from furlough, meaning that unlike many other government employees who don’t actually report to work, we will report for work. 2. We will not be paid until a funding mechanism. . .”
So, Agents still go to work.
The BP Union has a history of corruption, not saying Shawn is corrupt, but thing is, it is shot full of corruption: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/17/ex-border-patrol-union-president-indicted/
I find no comment from Shawn regarding a stand-down order. . .and my son (just talked with him moments ago to make sure I have the facts correct), verifies no stand-down order. Cheers.
Unfortunately too many GOP support this...and the last GOP President jailed our Border Patrol based on the lies of Illegal Alien drug dealer
Unless one is committed to 100% Deportation....they support Illegal Alien Amnesty
Just to clarify, from the source article:
"Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council...claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens."
This may be a very old "claim"; seem to recall such several months ago. Based on what you are saying, supported by credible sources, this does not appear to be the result of the current "shutdown".
Thank you for your responses.
That someone else is BIG SIS picking them up in a bus and driving them over to the welfare and voting registration office
The border patrol personnel could be paid if Air Force One was grounded.
The most ancient and foremost reason for governments to exist was to defend the borders. Our government is failing at its most fundamental purpose! Any other activity is secondary and of less importance.
The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!
The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!
Clown Prince nobama and his Clown Car administration goons hate Citizens of Free America. They are desperate now as they are realizing that their days are numbered. One can only hope that justice will find them all.
Perry should call up the NG.
Just tripped down I-35 enroute to Laredo. Do it several times a week. Northbound checkpoint is operating as usual and I spotted numerous agents all along the way from San Antonio to Laredo
the little islamist says so. That’s why.
And you can bet your family’s treasure that the neo-Nazi, racist POS Holder is behind this.
He’s daring the Republican cowards to come and get him. If the gutless RINO worms had even a sliver of courage, they would order the US Marshals to arrest that traitor for treason. And if the marshals refused, call up the 2ndmarDiv to arrest both Holder and the marshals.
So let me understand things. With the government shutdown, the Border Patrol won’t put up barriers to foreigners, but the Park Service will put up barriers to U.S. citizens. OK. Got it.
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