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Exclusive--Border Patrol Rep Claims Agents Being Ordered to Stand Down
breitbart.com ^ | 10/3/13 | Brandon Darby

Posted on 10/03/2013 1:19:06 PM PDT by ColdOne

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To: Hulka
Ok, just read your comments. If Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council is blowing smoke, the agents on duty will be the first to know of it.

Wonder why he would risk/forfeit his credibility with the agent community on such an easily verifiable point? (Or did I read all of this too quickly and miss a fine point?)

21 posted on 10/03/2013 1:53:07 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: ColdOne

If BP was told to stand down in my area, they are not listening. They have been pretty busy here the last few days and were indeed busy today already chasing smugglers. I have not seen the BP helicopter the last few days when I usually see it every day but not sure that is related.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 1:58:07 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: ColdOne

No surprise. Beginning with the Bush admin, the border has been a joke.


23 posted on 10/03/2013 2:00:34 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: PghBaldy

Essential people are working and being told they will be paid at some point.

Non-essential people were sent home- presumably without pay, though they may be paid later if they are salaried employees- that depends on what is put in the CR/budget whenever one is agreed on.


24 posted on 10/03/2013 2:01:09 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: ColdOne
Exclusive--Border Patrol Rep Claims Agents Being Ordered to Stand Down

When one of Hussein's muzzie bros brings a nuke across the unguarded border and detonates it in an American city, it will be instant IMPEACHMENT and REMOVAL for the 0bama regime!

25 posted on 10/03/2013 2:02:15 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Safrguns

What happens when a President orders every agency in the government to violate the laws of the country?


26 posted on 10/03/2013 2:08:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: frog in a pot

Not sure why he would make a statement that is not true. I imagine like most things there is some truth to it; BP in my area seem like business as usual, chasing smugglers like every other day. Some support may not be available to them- I have not seen any helicopters up but don’t know if that is part of this. Stand down may not be exactly what they were told- I spoke to some BP yesterday and all they said they have been told is go to work and they would get paid at some point, their pay may not be on schedule.


27 posted on 10/03/2013 2:14:56 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: frog in a pot
The NBPC is the BP union. They supported Obama.

That explains a lot.

Not sure what part of what I am saying conflicts with the NBPC (union)?

I report Agents are excepted and still report to work, don’t get paid, and paid leave is cancelled and there is no stand-down order on the border.

Their might be an Agent or two that is doing the union-work-slow-down thing, but not many.

From NBPC website: “We want to clarify a few things with the looming shut down. 1. Border Patrol agents are required to report for duty. We are “exempt” from furlough, meaning that unlike many other government employees who don’t actually report to work, we will report for work. 2. We will not be paid until a funding mechanism. . .”

So, Agents still go to work.

The BP Union has a history of corruption, not saying Shawn is corrupt, but thing is, it is shot full of corruption: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/17/ex-border-patrol-union-president-indicted/

I find no comment from Shawn regarding a stand-down order. . .and my son (just talked with him moments ago to make sure I have the facts correct), verifies no stand-down order. Cheers.

28 posted on 10/03/2013 2:19:11 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: ColdOne

Unfortunately too many GOP support this...and the last GOP President jailed our Border Patrol based on the lies of Illegal Alien drug dealer

Unless one is committed to 100% Deportation....they support Illegal Alien Amnesty


29 posted on 10/03/2013 2:31:41 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Hulka; Tammy8
I find no comment from Shawn regarding a stand-down order. . .

Just to clarify, from the source article:
"Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council...claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens."

This may be a very old "claim"; seem to recall such several months ago. Based on what you are saying, supported by credible sources, this does not appear to be the result of the current "shutdown".

Thank you for your responses.

30 posted on 10/03/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: G Larry

That someone else is BIG SIS picking them up in a bus and driving them over to the welfare and voting registration office


31 posted on 10/03/2013 2:50:42 PM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: ColdOne

The border patrol personnel could be paid if Air Force One was grounded.

The most ancient and foremost reason for governments to exist was to defend the borders. Our government is failing at its most fundamental purpose! Any other activity is secondary and of less importance.


32 posted on 10/03/2013 3:04:07 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ColdOne
WOW!

The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!

33 posted on 10/03/2013 3:12:41 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ColdOne
WOW!

The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!

34 posted on 10/03/2013 3:12:43 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ColdOne

Clown Prince nobama and his Clown Car administration goons hate Citizens of Free America. They are desperate now as they are realizing that their days are numbered. One can only hope that justice will find them all.


35 posted on 10/03/2013 3:13:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ColdOne

Perry should call up the NG.


36 posted on 10/03/2013 3:26:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ColdOne

Just tripped down I-35 enroute to Laredo. Do it several times a week. Northbound checkpoint is operating as usual and I spotted numerous agents all along the way from San Antonio to Laredo


37 posted on 10/03/2013 4:14:57 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (This nation is teats up.)
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To: ColdOne

the little islamist says so. That’s why.


38 posted on 10/03/2013 4:22:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ColdOne

And you can bet your family’s treasure that the neo-Nazi, racist POS Holder is behind this.

He’s daring the Republican cowards to come and get him. If the gutless RINO worms had even a sliver of courage, they would order the US Marshals to arrest that traitor for treason. And if the marshals refused, call up the 2ndmarDiv to arrest both Holder and the marshals.


39 posted on 10/03/2013 4:56:29 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ColdOne

So let me understand things. With the government shutdown, the Border Patrol won’t put up barriers to foreigners, but the Park Service will put up barriers to U.S. citizens. OK. Got it.


40 posted on 10/03/2013 5:36:34 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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