>> they are here to argue against traditional values
Nonsense. The argument is against the statism you embrace.
That is exactly the meaningless type posts that libertarians post over.
Conservatism is not statism, being against abortion and immigration and homosexuals in the military, gay marriage, gay marriage in the military, protecting traditional marriage, is traditional values and common sense and all American.
Libertarians won’t defend those positions here, or usually even admit to them, so they just rage at conservatives about being “statists” as though that explains political positions and choices.
That is why the libertarians resort to personal attacks and insults, they cannot speak openly and plainly about the current political battles over social issues, they can’t tell which side they agree with on particular issues.
Being liberal on social issues is the statist position, the more the culture degrades and becomes libertarian on social issues, the farther left we move, it leads to greater numbers of liberal voters, not fewer.