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"If Obamacare is removed from the government budget, presented, and voted on as a separate bill, Obamacare can be defunded by the House. If that is the case, then the Senate and the President has no constitutional authority to override the House's decision."

Wish they would do this NOW

1 posted on 10/03/2013 3:32:21 AM PDT by blueyon
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It is about time somebody actually read what the Constitution says about who funds what. It is for the House of Representatives to do, and ONLY the House of Representatives.


2 posted on 10/03/2013 3:35:59 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenship. Consider that.)
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To: blueyon

It is about time somebody actually read what the Constitution says about who funds what. It is for the House of Representatives to do, and ONLY the House of Representatives.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 3:36:00 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenship. Consider that.)
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Correct analysis, but it doesn’t account for the fact that Obama and Reid will not allow such a decoupling and will reject a larger funding bill that does not include Obamacare. That is essentially the present situation with the demons of the Left shutting down the government rather than touching Obamacare while the media is screaming 24/7 that it is the Republican’s fault. Will the GOP hold? I wouldn’t bet much on Boehner and also worry that Peter King is going to be the lever to deprive Boehner of his working majority and force a CR without any conditions.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 3:42:58 AM PDT by Truth29
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the entire history of rammming this bill into becoming “the law of the land” was accomplished by circumventing the US Constitution with “special rules”

go back 3.5 years and re-read about Pelosi and Reid’s maneuvers


5 posted on 10/03/2013 3:44:03 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: blueyon

Then they should do it now.

Wasn’t funding for this done outside the regular budget process?


6 posted on 10/03/2013 3:47:06 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Why doesn’t the House stop paying the Obamacare workers?


10 posted on 10/03/2013 3:51:26 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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Let’s add one more thing to Dr. Pease’s analysis of what CJ Roberts did ... Constitutionally, a revenue bill MUST originate in the house. The Senate, taking a NON-revenue bill, hollowing it out, and then sticking the genesis of Obamacare in the empty husk WAS A SHAM. OBAMACARE ORIGINATED IN THE SENATE!!! Where is the challenge to this??????? Is this what Roberts is waiting for? Where the heck are we on this?


11 posted on 10/03/2013 3:51:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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This article is correct to my knowledge... will we have the cajones to not only follow the proper procedures but stand up to Reid and obunghole?


12 posted on 10/03/2013 3:51:33 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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Im not familiar with Dr Pease.


14 posted on 10/03/2013 3:52:58 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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Bttt.


17 posted on 10/03/2013 3:55:20 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The Democratic party preys on the ignorant..)
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Isn’t the CR the continuation of the last budget passed by congress - about 4 years ago? If so, ObamaCare wasn’t part of the last budget. So, how is it possible to fund a program that was not in the original budget?


19 posted on 10/03/2013 4:07:20 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Boehner et al are too weak to take a stand like this, I’m really really stunned that boehner has not caved yet, not sure what he’s up to, I suspect something sinister and it’s just a matter of time before he caves and sells us down the river.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 4:36:12 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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The author suggests de-coupling the rest of the continuing resolution from the affordable care act and passing them as separate items.

“...If Obamacare is removed from the government budget, presented, and voted on as a separate bill...”

I don’t see how this is different from what has already been tried.


23 posted on 10/03/2013 4:38:32 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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I can’t believe how dumb our elected officials are. Oh, wait a minute, yes I can.


24 posted on 10/03/2013 4:43:27 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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The historic parallel between the Russian Communist Revolution of 1917 and what’s currently occurring in the United States is uncanny.

On November 2, 2008, the Democrat/Communist Party stormed the Winter Palace and killed the Czar (U.S. Constitution)and put Lenin (Obama) in the Kremlin (White House).

At this point in the Russian Communist Revolution, and just as it’s occurring now in the U.S., a Civil War erupts between the Red faction and the White faction that continues for another six years.


25 posted on 10/03/2013 4:44:13 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats h ave sided with our enemy.)
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I suspect that if the House successfully defunds this thing and the USSC declares it unconstitutional because of the way it was funded in the first place, or for some other reason, this regime will impose it anyway and the entire bureaucracy, including the IRS will enforce it with the full power of the Presidential Law. I think the line has been crossed.


28 posted on 10/03/2013 5:04:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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On Monday, Dr. Harold Pease, an expert on the United States Constitution, stated that the authority in dealing with Obamacare funding belongs to the U.S. House, not the U.S. Senate and that the House is doing this all wrong.

Is Pease saying the House simply needs to prepare an "Omnibus" bill that excludes funding for Obamacare, and present that to the Senate? In effect, that action would combine the piecemeal legislation into one bill.

The piece for Obamacare would then not be included in the Omnibus bill; it would be discarded and not available for consideration for the Senate to fiddle with, that is, nothing there to put back in.

Why did the House not do this in the first place?

29 posted on 10/03/2013 5:10:48 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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Since the King changed the ObamaCare law several times and since The Chief Minion of the Supreme Court morphed it from a mandate to a tax, did Barry make enough changes in the law - after signing it and well after Roberts "fixed it" for him - to justify taking it back to SCOTUS?

Who would have standing?

Can't we at least be point out that Barry unilaterally changed a so-called constitutional law - after signing it, and by making THOSE CHANGES made it......UNCONSTITUTIONAL????

This was not a line-item veto, it was an imperial President re-writing law by edict. Some would argue that this alone was an impeachable offense. Some would argue that Roberts should be impeached for rewriting the law.

Where is the outrage?

31 posted on 10/03/2013 5:19:42 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Direct election of Senators is an unconstitutional amendment and goes directly against the structure of the federal goobermunt.


33 posted on 10/03/2013 5:34:11 AM PDT by MN.Gruber06 (A besieged constituent in the beautiful Star of the North. Vote OUT Franken, Klobuchar and Dayton.)
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To: blueyon

Save for later read. Thanks for the post.


35 posted on 10/03/2013 5:49:10 AM PDT by Racer1
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