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To: snarkybob
The Tea Party wants to choose this as the hill to die on. It’s not going to be winnable. Even coservatives like Tom Coburn says it’s not.

It may already be too late. Cruz actually reinvigorated my passion for this country and gave me a glimmer of hope. I don't know what you think we should wait for. But if it's another election you are hoping will change course and rid of us Obamacare, well then, Sir, you are delusional.

During the next election cycle (NEXT YEAR) the campaigns will be about who would tweak what if elected. We are bleeding out now as a nation. I fear we have already lost the country by the simple number of people now dependent on government for their livelihoods. This country will not likely EVER see another economic boom. Government will NEVER get much (if any) smaller than it is today. So I think, if this isn't winnable in some fashion that at least sets up another fight, all is lost and I'm out.

For me, this is about the last fight I care to be vocal about. After that, I will not vote for GOP unless they are conservative at any level of government. I'll sit and be quiet until it's time to either move my family ahead of some state secession or I have to take up arms in a revolution.

I do hope someone can convince me otherwise. I want to believe. I want something better for my kids. But we have already adjusted how we are raising them to succeed in this new America. 1) They have to go into the military or get a Federal job at some point in their lives so they always have that on their record. 2) Take every single advantage of every government program you can. 3) Hide your wealth. 4) Never have debt. 5) Deal in cash and report only what you have to.

(Obviously being a good Christian goes ahead of all)

What is your plan for ridding of us Obamacare and reducing the size and scope of government? You're answer better not be, "Win the House, Senate and Executive Branch."

78 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:32 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: Tenacious 1

“I don’t know what you think we should wait for. But if it’s another election you are hoping will change course and rid of us Obamacare, well then, Sir, you are delusional.”

I’m not at all delusional. Obama care is going to be what we have to go forward with. To think the Dems will just give up on the centerpiece of Obamas 2 terms is delusional.

“But we have already adjusted how we are raising them to succeed in this new America.”

This is the wisest thing I’ve seen posted today.

Yes America has changed, and no it’s not going to change back.
There’s no putting the smoke back in the bottle.
I have no idea where it goes from here. I do think the more conservatives we have in congress the more we can at least influence the cahnges.
I’ve not given up, just trying to get a real handle on what can be done.


85 posted on 10/02/2013 5:50:18 PM PDT by snarkybob
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