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French court: ID checks on minorities deemed legal
Associated Press ^ | Oct 2, 2013 3:24 PM EDT | Elaine Ganley

Posted on 10/02/2013 12:36:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A French court on Wednesday rejected claims that police identity checks on 13 people from minority groups were racist, saying officers didn’t overstep any legal boundaries. …

The French ruling comes amid a public furor over stop and frisk policies of the New York Police Department. But in that case, being closely watched here, a judge has ruled against NYPD practices said to discriminate against blacks and Hispanics.

Anti-racism groups say that non-white French—particularly blacks or those of Arab origin—face routine discrimination that diminishes their chances of finding jobs, getting into nightclubs and carving out a place for themselves in mainstream society. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activistjudges; france; idcheck; minority; nypd; stopandfrisk

1 posted on 10/02/2013 12:36:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Common sense. Probable cause regardless of race should the only criteria.


2 posted on 10/02/2013 12:39:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Olog-hai

“Anti-racism groups say that non-white French—particularly blacks or those of Arab origin—face routine discrimination that diminishes their chances of finding jobs, getting into nightclubs and carving out a place for themselves in mainstream society.”

Non-PC translation: ID checks on minorities siginicantly impede their opportunities for murder and mayhem, making it a no-brainer to implement. Those immigrants who don’t like it can get on a boat and “carve out a place for themselves” in their hellhole of origin.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 12:44:25 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Olog-hai
Anti-racism groups say that non-white French—particularly blacks or those of Arab origin—face routine discrimination that diminishes their chances of finding jobs, getting into nightclubs and carving out a place for themselves in mainstream society.
4 posted on 10/02/2013 12:45:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Let your 'Yes' mean 'Yes,' and your 'No' mean 'No.' Matthew 5:37)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m unable to get worked up over people’s having a more difficult time getting into nightclubs. Stay home.


5 posted on 10/02/2013 12:46:10 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Olog-hai

Never thought I’d see the day when French law took a step ahead of the US.

Live long enough, see everything.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 12:58:10 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: skeeter
"getting into nightclubs"

Bien sur, c'est le cle du succes. /s

7 posted on 10/02/2013 1:32:10 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Jack Hammer
Jack Hammer said: "Never thought I’d see the day when French law took a step ahead of the US."

While you are celebrating the fact that some governments claim the authority to search their people without probable cause that a crime has been committed, you might want to give some thought to the fact that such unconstitutional searches will most certainly be used against you at some time in the future.

8 posted on 10/02/2013 1:33:15 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: pierrem15

AP would never engage in racial hyperbole./s


9 posted on 10/02/2013 2:17:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Hah! Didn’t think of that, but I bet they were complaining of not getting into nightclubs.


10 posted on 10/02/2013 3:09:05 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: William Tell

Are such searches unconstitutional in France?

I suspect not, and nor do I suspect they’ll ever happen in the US.

But, no, we certainly don’t want to hassle anyone to prove citzenship, not even at polling places or while collecting their welfare checks and other benefits furnished by working tax-payers.


11 posted on 10/02/2013 8:57:17 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer
Jack Hammer said: "I suspect not, and nor do I suspect they’ll ever happen in the US."

It won't happen in the US?

It was already happening prior to the recent court ruling in New York City.

There are plenty of solutions available to stop and reverse the flood of illegal immigrants into the US. We don't need to trash the Bill of Rights.

12 posted on 10/03/2013 6:48:51 AM PDT by William Tell
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Jack Hammer said: "But, no, we certainly don’t want to hassle anyone to prove citzenship, not even at polling places or while collecting their welfare checks and other benefits furnished by working tax-payers."

Welfare checks are unconstitutional.

There is nothing unreasonable about ensuring that voters only cast one vote in one jurisdiction. We don't need arbitrary searches of people for weapons to solve these problems.

13 posted on 10/03/2013 6:51:49 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

I’m afraid I don’t recall recommending we trash the Bill of Rights, and if welfare checks are unconstitutional, someone really should inform congress.

I nominate you.


14 posted on 10/03/2013 3:43:26 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer
When you said, "Never thought I’d see the day when French law took a step ahead of the US.", I took that to mean that you believed that the US would be advanced by conducting warrantless searches without probable cause.

If that's not what you meant, then what did you mean?

As for telling Congress that welfare is unconstitutional, I think I have done so. The communists are deaf to such arguments. That doesn't make the arguments unsound, just unpopular.

15 posted on 10/03/2013 6:07:31 PM PDT by William Tell
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