Posted on 10/02/2013 2:46:20 AM PDT by SkyPilot
I aim my epithets very carefully at the misuse of words and unless somehow you’re now doing “clarification” for the Pope “doublespeak” is just the right word.
Calling me a troll? I understand the tactic and it doesn’t work.
You have made up your mind that you are going to catch the Pope criticizing Jesus, and you aren’t going to let anything get in your way.
Ummmm...nope. Didn't come to mind, not my mind anyway. My criticism was solely about the misuse of the word “proselyte” and the attempt to make it a pejorative term.
And since you say, “You have made up your mind...” I'll point out that mind reading is not permitted.
“If you think the Cardinals pick the right man under the guidance of the Holy Spirit every time, then what about the times when the Papacy was bought and sold under simony? Were the Cardinals correct in taking bribes? Was the winning Cardinal who became Pope through simony the choice of the Holy Spirit??”
The obvious response is that the Holy Spirit isn’t involved at all, and that’s why the Papacy changes hands with perverts, murderers, psychopaths, and, today, by effeminate relativists with sympathy for communists who deny that salvation is through Christ alone, but is open to infidels so long as they “seek the good” according to their conscience.
““Proselytism” is disrespectful of people’s intellects.”
Outside of brain dead infidels who think that seeing a cross on the side of the road is an assault on their freedoms, no one of sound mind actually thinks like this.
So basically your Pope has conceded the fight to the infidels. But you’re wrong to claim, as you do without any evidence, that the Pope favors the same thing under another name.
When he responded to the infidel about conversion, the answer and all the follow up answers confirmed beyond any doubt that Francis isn’t holding anyone up to any particular truth. You need only “follow the Good’ according to the dictates of your conscience, because there is no “Catholic-God,” just a God who loves loves loves.
Your blasphemous, worthless Pope is preaching damnable sin and encouraging atheists to remain exactly what they are.
“It’s time to get Pope Benedict off the bench. Every time Francis opens his mouth, his words need to be clarified. Each person needs to discern what is evil on their own??? Sounds like moral relativism to me.”
If a person believes abortion is ok, I guess this Pope thinks it is okay. Cannibalism, polygamy, incest, etc. have been considered okay throughout history. It sounds like the Pope doesn’t think we should teach them any different. Its all okay as long as the person thinks it’s not evil.
Baloney. You portrayed the Pope as dissing Jesus, on the basis of the “fact” that “proselytizing” carries no negative connotations.
There is no “attempt” to make “proselytizing” a pejorative term. Rightly or wrongly, it has long been a pejorative term.
Here is an article by a man who holds that it should not be a pejorative term, but which documents that it has been for a long time. Your insistence that that is simply unheard of is idiosyncratic and perverse.
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/donrsquot-call-it-proselytism-16
“Your insistence that that is simply unheard of is idiosyncratic and perverse.”
Nope. I didn’t say anything about “unheard of” just that that as a pejorative it was wrong, s misuse of the language and appealed to a dictionary.
But I do like the use of words like, “idiosyncratic”.
Well said!
I think this Pope offers Christians a great example of why a church organization that is a centralized hierarchy is so bad. All it takes is one misguided leader and all those that think they are obligated to follow are led away from the truth.
Wet.....
But otherwise good.
Well, there's an example of wishful thinking if I ever saw it.
If the church isn't protected from the wrong man being elected pope, then it isn't protected from him making bad pronouncements.
Besides, the doctrines of the perpetual virginity of Mary, or the Real Presence, or other teachings were not always held by the church as being true. They were changed when the church made them official teachings.
One of the advantages of many different churches.
The very thing Catholics criticize Protestantism for, that of being many different denominations and no centralized authority, is one of its strengths for the very reason you mention.
It prevents massive deception on the scale of 1.2 billion, if memory serves me correctly on the number of Catholics that Catholics claim there are.
We are wet in Texas as well...with humidity though. Blech!
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