Posted on 10/01/2013 6:02:08 PM PDT by umpqua
The House of Representatives tried but failed to pass three emergency funding bills Tuesday, amid much political finger pointing by both parties in the wake of the potentially drawn out stalemate over the budget.
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If it actually IS a plan, it is a good one. Having gotten the entire senate democrats on record as shutting down government to force people to pay higher taxes (the individual mandate), they now have gotten most house democrats on record as refusing to fund essential government services.
The democrats say the republicans are hostage-takers. Well, the republicans just tried to release some of the hostages, and the democrats refused to take them. “Nope, you hostages just have to stay hostages”. So who is really taking hostages now?
I wonder about that too. It seems as though the republicans are going about this not to win but to put as much pressure on conservatives as possible to force them to cave. I really don’t recall the dems using a 2/3 requirement to pass Obamacare. I guess the GOPe leadership got its marching orders from Harry Reid. ‘Boehner! Don’t make us look bad by passing bills we’ll be forced to consider.’
I would think the way they forced ObamaCare on us took a very deep game plan, and a little help from a traitorous GOPe.
The etHouse Republican caucus knew exactly what it was doing. Folks......no vote ever goes forward in either the house or senate without the majority leadership knowing the outcome before the vote is taken. Once, every so often, you can see an upset....but not with three repeating bills. IMHO....smart move by Boehner and the troops!!!
Also.....kindly take note that the Lee/Cruz, Defund Obamacare Petition which is still active added 20,000 signatures yesterday, now standing at 2,020,000 signatures. Please continue to get our folks to sign & endorse it!!!!
WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM....Remember folks....this battle is a protracted conflict...and will go on for a long time!!!! That is to our great advantage!!!
Why were 2/3 needed? What is a “suspension” bill?
Can’t they just pass with a simple majority??
/bingo
Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants... bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society. Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors. [but he’s not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
to get house dems on the record too.
I truly hope the government is shut down for weeks. I WANT people to see they don't need as much government as we have. Its time to let a LOT of people employed by government (my tax dollars) go.
Yeah, it's about time the House GOP started to act like they have the power that they do. While only holding one half of one branch of the government, they do hold it and nothing gets through without their say-so. For too long they've just let the Democrats roll them.
Cruz's gambit both ignited them and kind of forced them into a corner. Once they took the first big step, they really can't back down now. The second Reid and Obama forced a shutdown rather than debate, the die was cast - the GOP is going to get all the "blame" anyway (no matter what the real story is), so there's no reason not to go for broke.
Reid's been playing politics with the budget process for years - refusing to pass a budget to avoid holding his members accountable for specific spending line items. But that's given the House tremendous bargaining power that they're only just waking up to the fact that they have. And it's payback time for Reid killing every single bill they pass without even letting it get to the Senate floor.
Reid and Obama also made a tactical error in passing/signing the military pay "mini-CR". Because that enabled the House to start saying "well, you passed that one, so here's a bunch more", letting the House pick and choose which ones to send, going for high-profile and generally non-controversial programs to force the Senate to either go along or be shown as the obstructionists that they are. Reid realized this mistake and is now killing everything, but it might be too little, too late if the House GOP keeps piling on.
At some point, even the MSM won't be able to sugar-coat the fact that it's Reid who's refusing to do anything. In the meantime, the GOP needs to hit the alternative media hard and really push this story. They have a winning hand, i only they will play it.
And it can’t be good for Obama and the dims to have pictures of WWII vets being barricaded from the memorial, have Pub congressmen open the barriers for them and then have them threatened with arrest.
Can’t be good for them to see Park Police put barriers up around the Lincoln Memorial when everyone knows it’s always open with or without park police...
This meme that it makes principled pubs look bad is just tommy rot.....
“Reid and Obama also made a tactical error in passing/signing the military pay “mini-CR”. Because that enabled the House to start saying “well, you passed that one, so here’s a bunch more”
Yes, i think i can now see a potential endgame for the shutdown. If they can get 2/3 in both house and senate for these mini-CRs, Obama can’t stop them.
We will see how long Reid can hold his people, but the house is nearly at 2/3 votes after one day! i think after a few days, the pressure will be on democrats in both house and senate to pass mini-CRs to reopen the popular stuff.
if they can start passing mini-CRs with a 2/3, support for obama/reid “no compromise” will totally disintegrate and it will be every democrat for himself...
the danger for republicans now is weak sister RINO treachery that votes for a clean CR and snatches defeat...
Commercials we will never see. The media won’t allow it.
If Romney were in the White House today instead of Obama, we would not be talking about the implementation of Obamacare. I do not agree with those who think that a Democrat is remotely better than a moderate Republican. Romney would not be trying to destroy the country and its stature in the world. Obama should be impeached for the flagrant way that he has violated the constitution during the last five years, but, because of his race, he is allowed to get away with it. Romney was not and would never be my first choice for POTUS, but he would be light years better than the person we are stuck with for three more LONG years!
Exactly. And in addition, it has to do with thousands of ACORN-like "community navigators" going door to door with the Zerocare paperwork, PLUS voter registration forms.
The donkeys' goal here is to recruit even more low-information voters. Whether or not they understand Zerocare is secondary.
frustrating indeed. Your welcome suggestions for resolving the impasse and for making conservatives look more like winners are......?
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