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To: ansel12
Wow, another honest libertarian, you are in for the full libertarian hard left social agenda.

No; reread the post — I'm for [FedGov] people who believe that the government's role is limited, extremely limited.

You just got homosexuals and the recognition of gay marriage in the military, the libertarian dream of truly open borders is getting closer to a reality, and you have partial birth full term abortion, you must be in hog heaven seeing so many gains from the libertarian perspective.

And how is any of that different from the status quo? — I can work with someone trying to convince them some legitimate government function is, well, legitimate… but have you tried convincing someone that illegitimate government function is illegitimate?

You yourself are an excellent example of the later: I can show you how Constitutionally the War on Drugs is illegitimate, and it won't matter. I can show you how it fails even by *spit* precedence, citing the 18th Amendment, and it won't matter. I can tell you about how the War on Drugs has eroded most of the Bill of Rights, and it won't matter.

Why?
Because you've already decided that the Federal Government is utterly correct in its righteous War on Drugs and, since I don't perfectly align with your view, I am an evil heretic that must be absolutely wrong!

To bad it all leads to even more anti-conservative economics, voters calling for more government, not less.

And when has the Republican party given us less government? Not in my political lifetime, that's for sure&hallip; and I'll be eligible to run for President in the next go-`round — in all that time, a whole generation, the federal government's size and scope have never been significantly reduced… and certainly not by Republicans despite what they say. (But I explain why that is below.)


Title: DELAY OBAMACARE A YEAR OR WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN - BOEHNER MAKES MOVE

Question: can we trust Boehner to stand firm?

>> The delay isn't a complete cave. One year expires October 1, 2014, just a little more than a month before the next election.
>
> Wrong. The delay will be the requirement to have insurance by January 1, 2015, after the next election cycle. The October 1st date is the opening of the exchanges. In other words, the democrats won't have to eat this monstrocity until the 2016 elections, when it will be too late to turn back. The majority of companies will have already abandoned provisions for provided health insurance to their employees, and the only "reasonable" fix will be single payer (socialized medicine). Nice going Republicans.

Ah, but the problem you have is that you don't understand: the Republicans want the corrupt/illegitimate power and tools that the Democrats are using… this is why there has been no vigorous pursuance of the IRS-scandal, the NSA-scandal, the Benghazi-scandal, or the Fast & Furious state-sponsored terrorism incident. It is why, for virtually all of the Republican-party's platform planks, the party never pursues them: financial accountability would force them to relinquish power, lessened tax-burdens (via simplification/normalization of the tax-code) would be surrendering corporate influence and power, illegalizing abortion would mean that they could not use abortion to feed the moral indignation of its base for votes, repeal of the GCA and/or NFA would mean that they could not use the fear of gun-grabbing quite as easily, and so on and so forth.

No, the Republican party perceives that it is best benefited by saying it is against the Democrats, but allowing most of what the Democrats want to pass: in the end, this grants them power, whereas fighting and failing would reduce them to political nothings which is their greatest fear. Thus it is that every Democrat win is really a Republican win, this is
The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy
[Direct Link]



PS Thank you; your attacks on anyone even slightly dissenting with you was highly inspirational in making The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy.
178 posted on 09/30/2013 10:50:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

So you support homosexual equality and marriage in the military and in immigration and abortion and the rest of the libber agenda, what are you doing here among these conservatives?


179 posted on 09/30/2013 10:57:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: OneWingedShark
Ah, but the problem you have is that you don't understand: the Republicans want the corrupt/illegitimate power and tools that the Democrats are using… this is why there has been no vigorous pursuance of the IRS-scandal, the NSA-scandal, the Benghazi-scandal, or the Fast & Furious state-sponsored terrorism incident.

Indeed. This is so evident on its face that arguing with someone who misses this point is like having a debate on whether the Earth is round or flat.

191 posted on 10/01/2013 3:43:29 AM PDT by shego
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