Posted on 09/28/2013 9:31:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Does that delay the whole law or just the individual mandate?
The Vitter Amendment and eliminating *all* the waivers that have been granted since 2010 is a very powerful tool as well. The Democrats have very carefully nurtured an entire generation of voters driven solely by envy, and the GOP could very easily turn the Congressional waiver privilege to their advantage, if they had the balls to do so.
How about you "Little" Harry Reid The Senate's Leading Democratic Party Marxist? You obstructionist Pompous Ass you have put a choke hold on any economical recovery, any workable solutions on any issues, and any other voice being heard but yours and Obama's. Begone Little man. Ted Cruz's truths has you throwing toddler's tantrums and I think it's hilarious. Let's watch Little Harry have a meltdown LOL.
I’m Sorry, but I just don’t understand you comment? What do you mean about the Vitter thing? Sorry if this seems incoherent, but what the heck are you talking about?
The “Vitter thing” you asked about is an amendment proposed by Senator Vitter, which would force all Congresscritters and their staffers to have to go into the ObamaCare public exchanges *without* getting a 72% subsidy from the taxpayers. The original ObamaCare law was passed that way, but in August, Congress cut a deal with Obama where Congress and their staffers would get a 72% subsidy toward their health-care premiums on the exchanges. An outrage!!!
We are quick to criticize but slow to praise...The house needs to hear form us now.
Okay thanks, seems like just another amendment to be ignored by those in charge - or affected. Thanks for the information. And yes,k just another outrage!
Thousands of waivers have been granted since 2010, pretty much under the radar. But the Congressional waiver, which was granted only last August (and not exactly a waiver, but a 72% taxpayer subsidy which nobody else on the public exchanges will get, so close enough to a waiver for me), was highlighted by Ted Cruz's 21-hour stand this week.
More people are aware now, more people are watching, and I would love to see the Dems squirm, having to shut down the government to preserve their own ObamaCare waiver, just when the rest of us peons are learning what the law is really going to cost as of Jan 1.
Many remember the government shutdown of 1995/96 when a showdown between the majority Republicans and the Clinton Administration shut down the government for 28 days. They portrayed the Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich as a cry baby because, “He closed down the government because Clinton made him sit at the back of the plane.” Thankfully, compromise did come—a balanced budget over seven years, tax cuts, and changes in mandatory spending programs such as Medicare. It worked to Clinton’s advantage.
Today we face another shutdown where President Obama wants no compromise. The Democrats are using the same playbook they used against Newt Gingrich including the politics of personal destruction. They are saying that if you defy us, the government will be shut down and we will do everything to blame Republicans.
The Republicans in the House are like aircraft engineers and have the Constitutional mandate to insure the flight readiness of the budget. They are saying that the budget with Obamacare is a plane that won’t fly. Americans know that Obamacare is wrong and the Democrats secretly know it too. President Obama is in the cockpit crying, “Get this plane off the ground!” He is sounding more and more like a cry baby having a tantrum that is willing to starve grandma and vets to get his way. The aircraft engineers must take the bad part out or the plane won’t fly. A shutdown in this case will be on Obama; not the Republicans.
They need to make it clean and clear. Revoke all waivers, make Obamacare mandatory for all federal employees as long as the law exists. Period. Just that. And the continuing resolution lasts until next year only as long as that remains law.
Yepper - make them even more tire/cranky/mean-spirited. Would love to be a mouse in the room - sitting next to a bag of popcorn.
-—Reid said no paying the troops-—
The end result of that gambit could be the elimination of Obama and Reid.
The troops could decide that the named leaders are simply no longer needed
I am fed up with this craziness. The House needs to send the same original House bill back to the Senate with an ultimatum - “This is the best and final offer.†Here is my justification: Many have discussed how the American people could get rid of this corrupt government. Isn’t shutting down the government the best way of doing it? I have lost complete faith in the phony election process we keep participating in. Indeed, the electoral makeup today is such that that little change is likely. If there were an armed rebellion, lots of turmoil would ensue and government operations would be shut down anyway and a lot of Americans would lose their lives. Why not just starve the blasted SOBs into submission. It will not be pretty, but it is a preferred method to having to do it by force. Obama would likely continue to illegally spend our tax dollars and then the next step would be to stop paying our taxes. What are they going to do then?
“Many have discussed how the American people could get rid of this corrupt government. Isn’t shutting down the government the best way of doing it? I have lost complete faith in the phony election process we keep participating in. Indeed, the electoral makeup today is such that that little change is likely. If there were an armed rebellion, lots of turmoil would ensue and government operations would be shut down anyway and a lot of Americans would lose their lives. Why not just starve the blasted SOBs into submission. It will not be pretty, but it is a preferred method to having to do it by force. Obama would likely continue to illegally spend our tax dollars and then the next step would be to stop paying our taxes. What are they going to do then?”
A very interesting analysis. Thanks for posting it.
I’m sorry if I missed something here. But why doesn’t the house send back exactly the same CR to the senate? Defund Obamacare? What do they have to lose at this point?.
Why would they just hold it off until after the 2014 elections? Won’t that just help the democrats?
Perfect!
Something I read yesterday talked about mandatory and discretionary spending. Those things that are law, like Social Security, Medicare, etc. are mandatory spending. Apparently Congress can’t defund those, they can only repeal the law. Obamacare falls in to that category. It can’t be defunded but it can be repealed.
Okay, but now why are they sending a weaker version back up? If they had all of these plans ahead of time, the dems KNEW the Republicans were not going to stand tough. What a bunch of wusses.
I read today that if the Senate kicks it back to Boehner he may add on the Vitter Amendment.
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