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To: Sequoyah101
Back in the 50-60's that's how everything was done. House and Senate each passed a bill for each Dept, then they had a conference committee negotiate each budget, then vote on each 'compromised' bill.

I really think that's what John Adams(?) Meant when he said, Democracy can only work in a Christian Society. There are now no limits, no morals in politics, so its to the bottom we go.

15 posted on 09/26/2013 8:44:13 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA

I thought I remembered this since we used to wait out the public works stuff for the Corps in the Defense Appropriations Bill or the Rivers and Harbors Appropriation.

Someone said reed would just send it back with all the funding but guess what? He isn’t supposed to be able to originate any spending in the spinate.

The Constitution is silent on the Budget save for that the president submits it to Congress for approval.

Spending bills have been approved for each of 12 agencies since about 1974 and the budget process we are supposed to have but have not followed since 2009 was part of the Budget Act of 1921. The House would be well within their rights to approve budgets by the agency I think.

Although the Constitution does not require the president to present an annual budget, in 1921 the Budget and Accounting Act became law and laid the foundation for the modern budget process, which includes the president’s budget. More recently, the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 established a timetable for the annual budget process, which is kicked off each year by the presidential budget submission. The Budget Act specifies that the president’s budget should be presented to Congress on or before the first Monday in February, which generally coincides with the timing of the president’s annual State of the Union Address.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/does-the-constitution-mandate-a-federal-budget#ixzz2g3vAVcYb

They have managed to make the budget process complicated and in 1974 pushed through baseline budgeting that allows spending to continue without approval since the Congress thought the were just to busy to have to do zero base budgeting every year and so we got government growth automatically proceeding at inflation plus 3% each year.

Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution of the United States of America

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.


26 posted on 09/26/2013 9:05:16 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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