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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Riefenstahl made two features for the Nazis, neither of which had any racialist or anti-Semitic content. Trimumph of the Will is a record of the 1934 Nuremberg rallies and Olympia is a record of the 1936 Olympics. I put her in the same group with Winnifred Wagner...someone with poor judgment who was seduced by Hitler’s personal magnetism. Swedish film director Ingmar Bergman was also taken with the Nazis as a young man. It all looked so shiny at first.

And btw she didn’t get any Oscars or accolades. But when she visited Hollywood in the late 1930s, the only studio head who would meet with her was Walt Disney. You could see the influence of her films on Bambi.


45 posted on 09/26/2013 12:41:30 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I would say that Riefenstahl was seduced by financing for her movies.
As for Winifred Wagner - a charming woman whom I met - you could not be more wrong. Yes, she was in love with Hitler, but she threatened the life of her own daughter, Friedelind, when Friedelind ran away to Switzerland to disassociate herself from the Nazis. As a result of the death threat, Friedelind left for England and spent the war in a camp for enemy aliens, while her family lived it up as favorites of the fuhrer. I know for a fact that until her dying day - decades after the end of the war - Frau Winifred kept a portrait of Hitler prominently displayed on her dressing table.


78 posted on 09/26/2013 1:58:29 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Borges
What you said: "And btw she didn’t get any Oscars or accolades."

What I said: "And some Nazi women (Leni Riefenstahl) even get huge applause and accolades from the Oscars crowd."

No where in my statement did I say she got an Oscar. The accolades I referred to was from the Oscar Crowd and that was in 2004.

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/mar/08/entertainment/et-counterpunch8

Here's a quote from Jerry Brukheimer in the article: "She was a genius, and her movies were innovative and still copied today...."

You said, "Riefenstahl made two features for the Nazis, neither of which had any racialist or anti-Semitic content."

Again, I never said her movies were anti-Semitic. They were racist and propoganda however as they extolled the superiority of the Aryan race. How is that not racist? She used gypsys from concentration camps as extras in a movie. How is that not despicable? Hitler was a guest at her wedding in 1944. She was a true believer. And the Hollywood crowd in 2004 included her in memoriam and gave her a big round of applause.
114 posted on 09/27/2013 4:30:42 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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