Posted on 09/25/2013 6:21:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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Despite the potential viability of this course of action, many on both left and right believe that a government shutdown is a guaranteed disaster for the GOP. Shutdown-phobia has been the conventional wisdom in Washington for nearly two decades. A close look at the evidence, however, reveals a not-so-shocking truth: Washington is wrong.
There is zero measurable historical evidence that suggestions of shutting down the government will be electorally damaging to the Republican Party. None. Republicans held the House and Senate before the last partial shutdown. They held it after. Bill Clinton's approval ratings cratered from 53% when the first shutdown began to 42% by the tail-end of the second (a period of about seven weeks).
Compare the 1996 GOP's electoral fortunes to those of the exceedingly cautious 2011-2012 Republicans:
1996: Lost presidency, +2 Senate Seats, -7 House seats.
2012: Lost presidency, -2 Senate seats, -7 House seats.
Besides the utter absence of electoral damage done by the prolonged 1995-1996 shutdown, the Newt Gingrich-led Congress successfully wrested the agenda-setting power in Washington away from the presidency. As then-Majority Whip Tom Delay said on the Mark Levin Show last week, "[the shutdown] was the most important thing we ever did," adding, "The result of that was for six years Bill Clinton did not get to sign one major bill that he initiated."
Looking past the politics of the next election, we must recognize that there may be no "next time" for stopping ObamaCare.
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Besides, when people are looking back and wondering what the heck happened, they will remember and should be reminded that it was the Democrats who forced this upon them and the Republicans and Conservatives tried to fight it.
Wondering when the low information voters will realize that they are >forced< to buy expensive health insurance. Young healthy types who voted for Obama and think that they don't need it. That is when Conservatives should remind them and then remind them again.
how is the filibuster going? I have a bad cold and zonked out on cold meds
Fox News and FreeRepublic.com were in their infancy.
Now we have Rush plus hundreds of other radio shows, Fox News and hundreds of websites all vying to be as influential as FR.
We KNOW what will happen if we DON'T shut down the government.
The only unknown is what will happen if we do shut it down.
It's worth a shot.
despite “polls” , politicians “fear” shutdown more than the people....
what better way to get lazy people into action!!!
Your doctor will be their informant on how you live, work and eat while their IRS agents will monitor every financial aspect of your life in the guise of keeping you healthy. There will not be one part of your life they will not only know but control through the Unaffordable Healthcare Act. This is a dream come true for the central planners who run the Communist....er, I mean....…Democrat Party and the worst nightmare for your average American.
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How to middle finger the O/Crats: We know the O/Care ship is listing---ready to heave--- maybe do a Costa Concordia into the Potomac.
THE BAD NEWS KEEPS COMING Reuters reports the US government on Wednesday scaled back its projections for Obamacare's impact in 2014, saying the law would generate slower healthcare spending growth and provide coverage to only half as many of America's uninsured as anticipated last year.
The biggest factor in the change stems from the U.S. Supreme Court verdict last year allowing each state to decide whether to expand the public Medicaid program for the poor under Obama's healthcare reform law. Republican leaders in nearly half of the nation's 50 states have rejected the expansion.
HHS now expects 11 million uninsured Americans to obtain coverage next year, down from about 22 million projected a year ago, according to the report, which appeared in the journal Health Affairs. (Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
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There's also lawsuits and state problems.
HERE'S HOW THEY'RE STOPPING OBAMACARE A West Virginia nonprofit has turned down a federal grant it received to help residents navigate new health insurance options under the Affordable Care Act after it received an inquiry from Attorney General Patrick Morrisey about how it would protect consumer information. Clarksburg-based West Virginia Parent Training Inc. did not respond to a letter it received from Morrisey directing it to answer 26 questions about the group's personnel and hiring practices, including employee background checks and employee monitoring programs, the Sunday Gazette-Mail (http://bit.ly/17M1QVe) reported. (Excerpt) Read more at sanluisobispo.com ...
YOUR TURN--Contact your state AG---ask him/her to issue a letter of inquiry to groups receiving federal "Navigator" grants. The inquiry should center on questions WRT how the group intends to protect consumer data.
In particular, the questionnaire should ask if the tax-funded "Navigator" program intends to transfer personal/ financial/medical data of the insured to the local/county/national Democrat Party, relevant Unions, banks, investment companies, drug companies, insurance companies. Trial Lawyers' associations and whether "Navigators" have sub rosa contracts with these, and other groups, plan to profit, to provide significant info to enrich databases for pecuniary purposes.
The AG also needs to confirm (1) whether the "navigator" was ever convicted of a felony....... and....(2) whether the "navigator" can be bonded.
Most importantly demand that your AG enforce the requirement that "Navigators" must have a state insurance license (consists of a comprehensive test on all aspects of insurance and compels a background check).
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SS#, TAX, MEDICAL INFORMATION
Breitbart Big Government ^ | 8/23/2013 | William Bigelow / FR Posted by markomalley
EXCERPT Planned Parenthood is about to obtain access to your Social Security number, tax form, bank account, and medical records.
With the advent of ObamaCare, consumers buying health insurance through health care exchanges will be required to speak to “navigators.” “Navigators” are supposed to help consumers find the best coverage and ascertain whether they are eligible for a federal subsidy.
Any “navigator” will have access to the federal data hub, which holds information from the Department of Health and Human Services, the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Defense Department, the Office of Personnel Management, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Peace Corps.
Planned Parenthood received $655,000 from the Obama administration to hire navigators. In Iowa, Planned Parenthood of the Heartland received $214,427; in Montana, Intermountain Planned Parenthood, Inc. got $295,604; and in New Hampshire, Planned Parenthood of Northern New England raked in $145,161.
And there is not much scrutiny over who these “navigators” will be; HHS will not require background checks or fingerprinting, and a previous criminal conviction, even if it was for identity theft , will not trigger a rejection. To make matters worse, the administration has cut the new employees’ training from 30 hours to 20 and reduced screening.
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OKLAHOMA WINS FIRST OCARE BATTLE: Quoting AG Pruitt--- "Obamacare was meant to be so open-ended that it could mean anything. We are seeing thousands of pages of new rules being written, both by HHS and the IRS. The open-ended interpretation of Obamacare enables this.....if the law doesn't contain a particular provision, no problem. They just make it up as they go along."
"Such is the case that involves the OK lawsuit."
“The court rejected the federal government’s argument that Oklahoma lacked standing to challenge the law, allowing us to proceed with this pivotal case,” “We’re optimistic the court will recognize what states have known for months that the IRS disregarded the law by making the large employer mandate effective in Oklahoma or in any of the 33 other states without a state health care exchange.”
REFERENCE Oklahoma challenged implementation of the Affordable Care Act after the IRS finalized a rule that would allow the federal government to punish “large employers,” including local government, with millions of dollars in tax penalties in states without state health care exchanges, which is not allowed under the health care law.
“Congress provided a choice for Oklahoma and other states in implementation of the health care law, and the IRS is attempting to take that away by rule,” General Pruitt said. “The administration miscalculated how many states would support this law, so now they’re using the IRS to push through provisions that Congress did not pass.”
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PROTECT YOURSELF---Obamacare is easy pickins for identity thieves. Steps to take to minimize risk of identity theft:
1. Contact the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 1-800-908-4490
2. Order a tax account transcript from the IRS that verifies basic personal data along with details of your tax return filed, which may come in handy if you are checking to see whether someone else filed a fraudulent return on your behalf
The Federal Trade Commission (link at website) also lists several steps you must take if you have been a victim of identity theft.
SOURCE http://www.cnbc.com/id/100918004
The American People will take notice in about TWO WEEKS what Obama has done to them. The American Giant is about to Awaken, and He will NOT BE HAPPY.
Last, if the GOP would join in the right messaging, focusing on it will force the MSM to report the many bad side effects that the voters would not normally hear about.
This is a good thing, a win-win proposition.
It's a game of chicken. The U.S. House of Representatives vs. the U.S. Senate. It is no more extreme or radical for the House to draw a line in the sand (a red one?) than it is for Dingy Harry to do so. Besides, per the Constitution, each spending bill must originate in the House.
It seems to be going well, check out the live thread and catch the comments: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070692/posts
Focus on all the exemptions.
Ask questions like, "Would you eat at a restaurant where the owner and staff refuse to eat?"
Newsflash to spineless, gutless Establishment RINOs - We The People Don’t Want OBayMe’s Nazi-style DeathCare.
Once the demand to open non-essential government services reaches a fever pitch, the GOP (who have no incentive to extend the shutdown) can simply say, “Great, let's hammer out a deal and reopen government.” Once Obama’s party comes to the table, the GOP will have won, because any negotiations will mean repealing, delaying, and/or de-funding ObamaCare — not a 100% repeal/delay/defund, but something higher than 0%.
Certainly the Democrats will realize that negotiation will mean giving away some of their precious domestic “achievement,” and thus they will resist coming to the bargaining table. But Obama, Reid, et al. will be trapped by their own rhetoric. If the shutdown is so bad, and the GOP want to end it, then the pressure to negotiate a deal becomes more and more intense.
Making matters more advantageous for Cruz, Lee, John Boehner, etc. is the long-arching media narrative that compromise is the holiest of all political rites. This standoff puts the eager-to-compromise GOP against the Democrat position of “No way. No how. Not even going to talk about it.” That political ground becomes increasingly difficult to hold as time passes.
Speaking of compromise , Obama says he wont compromise on the debt limit
You got that right.
We also want to know what’s in it and if Hillary is still writing it like she did secretly 19 years ago.
the exceedingly cautious 2011-2012 Republicans
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That is exactly how they are. Cautious, calculating and cowering. The simple truth is that Republicans don’t play to win. They are in a permanent defensive posture and they will never achieve any victories that way.
If it doesn’t survive in the CR, attach it to a must-pass, must-sign bill.
I have two Dhimmicrap Senators, but I’m calling anyway. I want them to fund the government and end the bill’s special privileges for Big Business at the expense of the working people.
The establishment Republicans have made a deal with the devil, they can live opulent lives if they will only feign opposition publicly. They are the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters, but worse. Because they have made the deal with the Devil they also displace any threat to their seats by subterfuge. The tea-party and Ted Cruz types are attacked from within. Think about the GOP primaries, how Conservatives must be eliminated to pave the way for the establishment types.
Constitutional conservatives have two enemies, Democrats and Republicans; the only difference is that there are a few good Republicans, to be a Democrat one first has to embrace the way of the sociopath.
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