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To: BuckeyeTexan; Amendment10; Jim Robinson
Yes, most of it (0Care) is funded. See my post at 33.

Another poster seems to disagree...

Regarding the people demanding that the House of Representatives defund constitutionally indefensible Obamacare, some patriots have been referencing Federalist No. 58 which was written by James Madson.

In Federalist No. 58, Madison actually emphases that one of the main reasons that the Founding States delegated the power of the purse solely to the House of Representatives (HoR) was give the HoR a means by which the people could redress their grievances against the Oval Office for usurping legislative powers (my wording), not that Obama would dare think of usurping Congress's powers. =^O

Here's key wording from Federalist No. 58:

The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of government. They, in a word, hold the purse that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.

From this thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070238/posts?page=55#55

The House controls the purse. Just to confirm, as this is confusing to many of us.

35 posted on 09/23/2013 1:19:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jane Long; Amendment10; Jim Robinson

Yes, the House controls the purse and they already opened it for Obamacare when they passed the Affordable Care Act. Madison’s Federalist No. 58 does not contradict the Congressional Research Service report that I cited.

It was the House of Representatives who provided the mandatory funding for various aspects of Obamacare within the Affordable Care Act itself. Read the report.

The House does not have to vote to fund Obamacare. They have to vote to defund Obamacare, which they did.

I hope that clears it up for you.


40 posted on 09/23/2013 2:21:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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