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To: BuckeyeTexan
I am not sure about your statement that it is already funded. How can it be funded if the Congress has not done budgets for future years yet? Did the 2009 Congress appropriate money and designate funds to Obamacare in 2014? Or is it an annual budgetary exercise of appropriating the money for programs that Congress has previously authorized?

As to the 3 choices, I agree with your list somewhat. Choices 1 and 2 are our current only choices. Democrats will never defund it on their own. They may agree to a delay, but they will not agree to a delay unless they see that Republicans are resolute. Otherwise, they will just beat up on them in the press and wait for them to fold.

As for Choice 3, that is for next year, not now. It is not much of a choice if Republicans don't win this battle or force a delay. If Obamacare goes into effect now, it will be much harder to defund it in 2014. And conservatives will be so disillusioned with Republicans that they will put control of the Congress in serious doubt.

Even if you get a Republican majority in both houses in 2014, it just gets us back to the shutdown fight, because Obama will most definitely veto any repeal. So then you are back to negotiating a delay or else Republicans shut down the government. Might as well begin that fight now, before Obamacare is implemented and people have got new health plans, not after.

Choice 4, not on your list, is to keep defunding the bill until 2016, until a Republican president can sign a bill repealing this monstrosity of a law. And even then it will be tough, because Dems will filibuster in the Senate. It may take a budgetary parliamentary maneuver to get it done.

You've left out a few steps, but the bottom line is that to get from here to repeal, the first step is to vote to defund Obamacare. If you don't do that, you cannot pretend to be against it.

29 posted on 09/23/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Defiant
I am not sure about your statement that it is already funded. How can it be funded if the Congress has not done budgets for future years yet?

From the Congressional Research Service report:

... the federal government will be able to rely on sources of funding other than annual discretionary funds still available for obligation as well as mandatory funds.

31 posted on 09/23/2013 12:58:23 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Defiant; BuckeyeTexan
I am not sure about your statement that it is already funded. How can it be funded if the Congress has not done budgets for future years yet? Did the 2009 Congress appropriate money and designate funds to Obamacare in 2014? Or is it an annual budgetary exercise of appropriating the money for programs that Congress has previously authorized?

Is it funded, already, or not? Senate Conservatives - and several other conservative sites - seem to think it is NOT funded, yet. If anyone can confirm, please let me know. Thanks.

32 posted on 09/23/2013 12:59:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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