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To: Democrat_media

I agree. The idiot dishonest “warmers” are anti-science whores.


47 posted on 09/22/2013 7:10:56 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: ogen hal; palmer; Dark Knight; Right Wing Assault
Yes and the “warmers” even on this site are helping the media and gov to enslave us by menacing us with the global warming hoax or imaginary hobgoblin

http://notrickszone.com/2013/09/12/no-warming-left-to-deny-global-cooling-takes-over-cet-annual-mean-temperature-plunges-1c-since-2000/

CET temperature data from the UK Met Office: “The overall annual temperature shows a diminution of pretty much a full degree Celsius over the last 13 years.” Here’s the chart:


48 posted on 09/22/2013 7:28:40 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: ogen hal

I won’t say dishonest, but surely shown a pile of doo. I looked at the website palmer referenced and it was clear to me when they were misrepresenting. But they were sophisticated in their scientific presentation, so regular people could look at it and believe. Not know, but believe.

Ask a really good prognosticator if they have 40 years of info, what kind of predictive value could you put on it? 5 years? 7 years? 100 years?

Models don’t generally predict outside their database. And they usually aren’t better than a 1/4 of the time frame. 40 years of date...maybe 10 years of projection.

And mixing of data by accuracy...LOL. Can you predict with a tenth of a degree accuracy, when your data is by the 1/2 degree, or 1/5 degree? Your worst data, determines your accuracy. Much of the non satellite data is horridly gathered, and in dispute on collection methodology. Is surface data collection on land a representative sample enough to predict retention of heat content on the Earth as a whole? A clue, the oceans are the biggest heat sink on the Earth and good luck figuring out their heat content with a 1 degree accuracy (that would include all depths).

The models don’t work predictively. They really never have. That is the replicable part of science and the scientific method. But to put climate “science” in a box...climate is the weather over time. If you cannot predict the weather at a particular time...logical conclusions are a tough mistress...eh Laz?

DK


49 posted on 09/22/2013 8:46:17 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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